If you want this to be about starting a franchise from scratch which QB are you taking is going to depend on age, potential just as much as how good they are now. if you want who are the top 15 NFL Qb's, then that list will be different from top to bottom.
1. Brady 2. Manning 3. Rivers 4. Rodgers 5. Brees 6. Vick 7. Roethlisberger 8. Ryan 9. Eli Manning 10. Romo 11. Schaub 12. Flacco 13. Cutler 14. Cassel 15. Orton 16. Stafford 17. Freeman 18. Bradford 19. Garrard 20. Sanchez ^my top 20 QBs right now If you're drafting for the future... 1. Rivers 2. Rodgers 3. Brady 4. Manning 5. Roethlisberger 6. Ryan 7. Brees 8. Vick 9. Bradford 10. Eli Manning 11. Flacco 12. Freeman 13. Stafford 14. Sanchez 15. Romo 16. Schaub 17. Cutler 18. Orton 19. Cassel 20. Kellen Clemens
Yeah, it was about top 15 QBs right now...not starting from scratch. Guess I should have been more clear with it.
Not a lot of love for Eli or Romo either with most. Surprised to see Colt McCoy crack anywhere near the top 15.
Personally the reason I have Vick so hish is his ceiling, no other qb has the ability to be a weapon like him, of course I took it as drafting a qb for a team, top qb-wise I would not have him as high
Man...I couldn't disagree with this list any more. Even if I weren't considering building my team around a YOUNG QB who has shown talent and consistency, and just making a list of best QBs (which is what I think you did)..my ranking would be so diff. I would put Vince Young on my list sooner than I would Orton or Schaub. 1. Rodgers 2. Rivers 3. Ryan 4. P. Manning 5. Brady 6. Brees 7. Bradford 8. Roethlisberger 9. Flacco 10. Vick 11. Romo 12. Sanchez 13. Freeman 14. Cutler 15. Stafford
I think the same could be said about Stafford...the guy has played in 3 games this year...after a rookie year in which he barely completed half of his passes and had 20 ints to his 13 tds. Granted, I can see the upside/potential, but man , way too early to pick these guys among the top 10 or so in the NFL. Bradford has been unreal as a rookie...but even then, he barely has an 80 rating along with 6 ypa. Not really top 10 worthy, imo.
I dont feel like doing the whole thing, my franchises Gm is the fused genes of Tanny and Cashman so were getting who we want. 1. Aaron Rodgers
When it comes down to it, how different are Schaub and Orton from Rodgers and Rivers? All of them put up numbers, and none of them have won anything. Matt Shaub: 3,089 yards, 17-8 TD/INT, 93.2 rating, 65% completion Kyle Orton: 3,487 yards, 20-6 TD/INT, 93.0 rating, 58% completion Aaron Rodgers: 3,243, 23-9 TD/INT, 100.3 rating, 65% completion Phillip Rivers: 3,642, 24-10 TD/INT, 102.5 rating, 65% completion Rivers and Rodgers are obviously elite QB's, but I don't think Shaub and Orton are scrubs either. Frankly, Jets bias aside, Orton and Schaub are probably better then guys 11-15 on your list.
They are substantially different because two of them are in MVP talks for this season and two are not. I definitely don't think Schaub and Orton are scrubs, I wouldn't build my team around them though. I would easily pick only one...Rodgers. Hands down. The way he handled himself with the Favre bullshit and also on the field play, he's the type of guy I want to build a team around. Because it's also about the intangible stuff too Foley, and I don't believe Orton or Schaub would rally my troops.
1-5 in some order Tom Brady Peyton Manning Drew Brees Aaron Rodgers Phillip Rivers 6-9 in some order Ben Roethlisberger Matt Ryan Michael Vick Eli Manning 10-15 in some order Joe Flacco Kyle Orton Matt Schaub Tony Romo Jay Cutler Matt Cassell
Yeah you're right my list is COMPLETELY different from what you have on yours... Romo doesn't deserve to be there he's not a big game QB he's had plenty of opportunities and never shows up.
What big games have What big games have Orton, Schaub, Stafford, Cutler, or Freeman won to be on there ahead of Romo? Because Romo has better numbers. I waffled on my picks constantly. Hard to rank some guys, but there is a clear dropoff after 8 or 9 imo.
They haven't had the opportunities that Romo has had. I'm looking at it as which QB has the most upside and who I want on the big stage with the game on the line. I know I don't want Romo. Stafford I have second guessed that pick and I would reconsider his placement on the list.
1. Brady 2. Rivers 3. Brees 4. P Manning 5. Rodgers 6. Ryan 7. Big Ben 8. Bradford 9. Freeman 10. Vick 11. Orton 12. Flacco 13. Sanchez 14. Cassel 15. Cutler No Schaub - something about the way he looks says "loser" Love Stafford he would probably be number 8 if I thought he could stay healthy
1. Tom Brady 2. Peyton Manning 3. Drew Brees 4. Phillip Rivers 5. Matt Ryan 6. Aaron Rodgers 7. Kyle Orton 8. Matt Schaub 9. Ben Roethlisberger 10. Michael Vick 11. Jay Cutler 12. Matt Stafford 13. Joe Flacco 14. Josh Freeman 15. Mark Sanchez
1. Rodgers 2. Rivers 3. Ryan 4. Bradford 5. Brady 6. P. Manning 7. Brees 8. Roethlisberger 9. Vick 10. E. Manning 11. Freeman 12. Flacco 13. Stafford 14. Sanchez 15. Favre