Would you trade a 4th round pick for Josh Gordon?

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  1. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    Ricky did it! Lol
     
  2. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    No way. This guy can't keep it together. Multiple drug violations, DWI's, getting bailed out by a convicted felon.

    He needs guidance right now, not football.
     
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  3. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    For a fourth? Hell no. Wait while he faps in a Target car park and get him for a sixth.
     
  4. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Next year would be Josh Gordon's greatest likely season. He just had a great season at 22 and now the sky's the limit, but instead he will spend the year on the sidelines. If the Browns and Gordon's agent don't lock him away in a rehab and psych orientation program for most of the year his career is 50/50 to be over. When you do the things he does you don't need a little help to avoid trouble you need a completely regimented program that governs your life for any period of time when you would otherwise get in trouble.

    If Gordon figures it out in time he'll put his life in his agent's hands and hope that does the trick.
     
  5. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Football career over? People are kidding, right? Some team will give him a chance again. Hopefully it won't be the Jets.

    If this kid has people they need to mitigate this shit by getting him into a rehabilitation program and have him publicly acknowledge his "addiction" whether or not He believes it.
     
  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    All Gordon has to do to end his career at this point is to get suspended for a season (already in the works) and then have a screwup at some point during the suspension. That's the indefinite suspension where he has to apply to get reinstated and jump through the kind of hoops that have repeatedly tripped him up in the process.

    The NFL isn't going to be hunting him at that point but every time he gets in a car after a drink or two his career will be hanging by a thread.

    The 5 step program to save Josh Gordon:

    1. Get him into a real rehab program. The kind where he doesn't have the choice to walk away whenever he wants and the staff get prosecuted by the program if they smuggle in drugs.

    2. Get him some psychiatric counseling to help him work through the question of why he is throwing away millions of dollars before he has irretrievably lost them.

    3. Get him a chauffeur. Not a call-a-ride thing, a live-in chauffeur who is the only person who has keys to the car. Josh Gordon should not drive a car again until he has had three clean seasons in the NFL.

    4. After the first three things are checked off have Gordon start making community appearances to speak about addiction and drugs to kids (and others). He's the perfect example of how drugs can cause you to do things that hurt you.

    5. Enlist Roger Goodell and the NFL in making Gordon a pilot program on how to save young players at risk from drugs and other self-destructive behavior. This kind of stuff always gives the NFL a black eye while it is knocking the player out. Make it a win-win to save Gordon and figure out how to deal with future problems in the process.
     
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  7. pdxdrew

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    I will if he gets me drunk and smokes me out. Wait. Oops. I am not Woody.
     
  8. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    some of you act like its you thats paying these players. How could you not want a player like that on your team? If he screws up, thats his fault.. its not the end of the world. If he doesnt, your rewarded with one of the best players at his position. As a GM i would understand being opposed to it but as a fan if he came here are yall really gonna bitch and complain? Hell no. Yall would be hype as fuck. Just like the ones who shitted on CJ2K before we got em then it was hip hip hooray when he signed. I would love if we traded a 4th for him as a fan and alot of you would too that would be a crazy steal. The ones that complain would be the same ones that still feel Vick hasnt paid enough dues yet. Unless your the guy payin all these extreme oppositions are just overreactions .
     
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    A 4th for guy who is suspended for a year and may not play again. I'd be pissed as fuck and that's not an overreaction.
     
  10. JetLifeLo

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    The year he returns from suspension ...I don't even think you can trade a player under a suspension
     
  11. The Waterboy

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    You can trade a player while under suspension but why would any team give a 4th round pick for someone who has given no indication of stopping the behavior that has resulted in the suspension? If the trade included provisions like the Dallas Tennessee trade for Pacman where Dallas ended up getting back a 5th after giving up a 4th because Jones screwed up again then maybe I could see it.
     
  12. Br4d

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    Gordon is a tantalizing puff of smoke right now. Anybody who trades for him basically needs to write off whatever they traded for him as a lost asset and then be pleasantly surprised if something comes from it.

    Good teams don't usually invest themselves in great gray foggy propositions that are as likely to fade into the mists as to materialize into an asset. There have been a few good teams in the NFL's history that have done that, like Dallas with Roger Staubach in the 70's, but mostly it's a losing proposition and good teams stay away from those situations.

    When you're a good team one of the things that marks you as good is that you make sound decisions and invest in solid assets likely to make good returns for you.
     
  13. LogeSection2RowJ

    LogeSection2RowJ Well-Known Member

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    Didn't want to trade for him last year, don't want to trade for him this year. We have some good chemistry going, let's not screw that up.
     
  14. JetLifeLo

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    Gordon is only 22 turning 23 though, he has soo much time to get his act together, and he's a fuckin maniac at WR! Yall act like hes a santonio Holmes type distraction his issues are all off the field . Yeah the suspension was a fuck up but everybody fucks up! He was .1 over the alcohol limit on 4th of July weekend ... Big whoop . Im just saying yall acting like he has absolutely no chance in turning his career around at 22.
     
  15. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you.. The upside here is tremendous.. But I wouldn't give a 4th.. I would send over a 7th and Clyde Gates.
     
  16. JetLifeLo

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    Put him on that Dez Bryant leash that Dallas has him on and make his life strictly football if this is what he really wants he'll take advantage of the help like Dez did. And he's worth it bc he puts up Dez-like numbers. I'd give him a "prove it" year based on behavior before signing him long term but he is sooo sick on the field they can have a 4th pick from me all day. Who tf did we even draft 4th round that is that good anyway recently
     
  17. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Only problem is New York is not Dallas.. The temptations here are 100x greater than any other city in the US. I think he is going to be suspended this upcoming year, so just bring him in for that 7th rounder, and let him get rehab and the help he needs this season.. We see if we have anything in Hill this year while Gordon sits out, and if Hill snubs, Gordon moves right in and we have him opposite of Decker for 2015 and beyond.

    One can only dream.
     
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  18. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    I doubt the browns even trade him for a 4th they see his potential they know whats up
     
  19. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Yea there is no way they are giving up on a potential HOFer so early in his career.. They really need to intervene and give him the help he needs though.. The little investment they could make now in his life, will pay big time dividends in the future.
     
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  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Browns don't own Gordon. He's under contract with them through 2015 and they aren't going to get anything out of him this year. I'd be really surprised if they see him as any kind of real asset at this point.

    The only way to keep him in Cleveland, assuming he's eligible to play at all by 2016, is going to be to throw a lot of money at him and that's a big risk. He's more likely to take a safety first/prove it deal in a location that he wants to be in than in Cleveland with the Browns.

    The people who have a major investment at stake in Gordon's future are not the Browns. They're Josh Gordon and his representation. That's who I think are going to kick into overdrive at this point to try to salvage his career. They're the only people that have the investment stake that absolutely requires an intervention.

    If Gordon tells his agents to take a hike because he doesn't like what he's hearing from them he'd better have a great Plan B in mind.
     

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