What QB do we draft now?

Discussion in 'Draft' started by BacktoQueens, Feb 26, 2018.

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Who do we draft at QB?

Poll closed Mar 19, 2018.
  1. Allen

    10.6%
  2. Mayfield

    33.3%
  3. Darnold

    13.6%
  4. Rosen

    28.8%
  5. Jackson

    3.0%
  6. Rudolph (after round 1)

    3.0%
  7. Falk (after round 1)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Other (after round 1)

    6.1%
  9. No one

    1.5%
  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I knew the poster who said that Mayfield had a weak arm was wrong! Also looks like I was right about Falk.
     
  2. Big Cat

    Big Cat Well-Known Member

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    Caveat: apparently Ourlads measures velocity independently and does not give official values.

    Official numbers may be higher or lower than posted.
     
  3. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Next time someone claims Mayfield doesn't have a strong arm:

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    It starts at 8:37 in the video, or 2nd quarter with 4:12 remaining.

    Not even mentioning the accuracy here.
     
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  4. amuck57

    amuck57 Active Member

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    I disagree, watched him play for three years and the only knock I have with him is he missed a lot of open receivers on routine plays over throws or leading them to much.
     
  5. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    The facts say that you are wrong. Disagree all you like. He is one of the most accurate QBs in the history of collegiate football, and I think set some kind of record the last two years.
     
  6. Skicats

    Skicats Well-Known Member

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    Why?
     
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    If the Jets don,t have a chance at the QB they really like at 6, I am liking Kyle Laulette from Richmond. Excellent pocket presence, elusive and has a strong and accurate arm. Can be had in the second round I would think and sign a stud other than QB at six.
     
  8. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    But but but Josh Allen’s supporting cast is the reason for his completion percentage

    lol
     
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  10. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Mayfield or Rosen. In no particular order.

    Broadway Baker has a ring though.
     
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  11. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I want Mayfield in green and white...make it happen boys.
     
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  13. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Sure wish Mayfield was 6'5" but he isn't. Brees has done it for years so maybe he can too. I will definitely be pissed if he is still the only one of the top 4 on the board when we pick and the morons running the show don't take him.
     
  14. MDJets

    MDJets Well-Known Member

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    I am ok with Mayfield, but I don’t think we need to move up to get him. And we need a QB in FA.
     
  15. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    The height thing is completely overblown. 6'5ish is "ideal", but the advantage is so small and yet so overrated. It's like the superior athlete, the question is still "can they play football"? By the logic of the height crowd, Vernon Gholston should have been a terror. Instincts and awareness will take any QB further than 2 inches.

    Speaking of which, the difference between Mayfield and Rodgers is less than 2 inches. People who see that as a huge difference must have some significant insecurities.
     
  16. Doreblade

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    If he was 6'5" then we wouldn't be having these discussions - He would be the No 1 QB and possibly No 1 pick overall.

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
     
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  17. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Yep, it was a struggle to come up with every QB Dorsey drafted. I typed in "What QBs has John Dorsey drafted?" and had to scroll down to the 2nd result.

    https://scout.com/nfl/browns/Board/105323/Contents/John-Dorsey-Drafting-QB-history-111946999
    2002, 5th round, QB Craig Nall
    6'3 227 from northwestern state, started at LSU, played 5 years of CFB. Not a whole lot of info out on him, in 2001 he lead NSU to the playoffs. beat TCU that year 27-24. had just 3 interceptions in almost 300 attempts that season. he completed just 56% of his passes that year, and was a sub 50% passer in his short LSU career.

    2005. 1st round, Aaron Rodgers
    We all know what Rodgers has developed into in the NFL, but in College he was just a 2 year starter who completed 63% of his passes in those 2 years and only 13 Interceptions in 665 attempts, he also had a YPA of 8.2 with a TD/INT ratio of around 3:1.

    2006, 5th round, Ingle Martin
    Florida backup QB his 1st 2 seasons, 6'2 220, transfered to Furman. at Furman he completed 62% of his passes with 22 TDs and 9 Ints in his first year, and in his second year he was an all american completing 60% of his passes with 20 TDS and 13 Ints, again not a whole lot more info out on him

    2008, 2nd round, Brian Brohm
    Fun fact, new insider Ben Allbright has Brohm as one of his all time highest ranked QBs that he's ever graded. Brohm 6'3 223 from Louisville, really set the bar for their high scoring offense we have seen since then. Completed 66% of his passes, 71 TDs to 24 Ints in his career, 4 year QB, his senior year he had almost 500 attempts with a 65% completing percentage and 30 TDs to 12 Ints. he had a YPA of 9.1 as well. he was a heisman canidate in 2006 and bowl game mvp that year.

    2008, 7th round, Matt Flynn
    Like Rodgers, we know his NFL story, 6'2 230, 5 year college player. he was a 56% completion percentage in college, in his only season being a full year starter he had 21 TDs to 11 TDs with a 56% completion percentage, he had a YPA of 6.7

    2014, 4th round, Aaron Murray
    6'1 210 from UGA. he must like QBs with the name a-aron. 4 year player, career 62% passer. in his final year he was a 65% completion percentage with 26 TDs and 9 Ints, in his junior year he had 36 TDs and 10 Ints with 66% completion percentage. he had a YPA of 9.0

    2016, Kevin Hogan at 6'3 218. We all know his story and his talent. 65% passer in college with an 8.7 YPA, 75 TDs to 29 Ints.

    2017, 1st round, Patrick Mahomes #10 overall.
    6'2 225, cannon for an arm and great athletic/mobility as well, 64% career passer, 93 TDs to 29 Ints
     
  18. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Lauletta would be another wasted pick in round 2, anything earlier than round 4 is too early and I am pretty sure he would be available there or later.

    And if you watched any more than the Senior Bowl you would know he does not have a strong arm. He will be an INT machine in the pros.
     
  19. amuck57

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    sorry to say the facts say otherwise, went back and looked at his collage stat's 2015 54 % completion, 2016 56% completion 2017 59% completion. sacked 26,46,29 total101, td 69, int 27. and have read scouting reports that all say pretty much the same thing, very bad foot work and needs to work on his accuracy. the records you are talking about are his combined yardage, running and passing. I still think he is a freak of an athlete but I don't want the jets to draft him.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Guy, I don't know whose stats you looked up, but they weren't Baker Mayfield's. You're just making yourself look ignorant. Stop already.

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/baker-mayfield-1.html

    His freshman year at Texas Tech (2014) he had a 64.1% completion percentage. In 2015 his completion percentage was 68.1%. In 2016 his completion percentage was 70.9%. In 2017, it was 70.5%. His career completion percentage is 68.5%. Not too shabby for someone with bad footwork, huh? I'll take that any day. Just think how much better his accuracy will be when his footwork issues get resolved. Some QBs are accurate regardless of their arm angles, footwork, or fundamentals. Others can have perfect fundamentals, but aren't accurate. He had 131 TDs and 30 Interceptions. You looked up the wrong player or looked at the wrong column. His footwork probably could use some work, but with so many college teams playing spread offenses, many, if not most, college QBs do need work on their footwork and drops.

    Following is the link to his NFL.com scouting report. Lance Zierline does most of those, and he has his biases and is inconsistent.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/baker-mayfield?id=2560063
     
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