Big difference between having input and making picks, the only pick Rex made in 6 years was John Connor. Every pick made in the last two years was Idzik's pick..period.
The coach has plenty of say when it comes to draft picks. And when Rex was in town he had more than most. Anyone who says otherwise is lvl 1000 dumb ... Don't believe me? Check out the bills draft . Jets draft blueprint to the tee Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
That is patently false of a statement. One of the 1000 patently false statements made on this forum on a daily basis Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sure as GM Idzik makes the final decision. But the entire process is a collaboration between the GM, the front office and the coaching staff. It works this way with every team. But the GM makes the final call. But the Tajh Boyd pick was given to Rex by Idzik http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...t-rex-ryan-says-tajh-boyd-pick-was-helped-son
haha..then give us a list of the picks he made and tell us while you're at it when he was given personnel decision making responsbility. and since he had that power why didn't he bring revis and cromartie back?
He can say whatever he wants to now. As far as I'm concerned he's just trying to throw all of the blame elsewhere. I gave a link about the Tajh Boyd pick last year. And during both off seasons the past 2 years there were plenty of articles about the coaching staffs involvement in scouting etc prospects. Rex had plenty of say in personnel no matter what he says now. One of the reasons I hate the guy is this kind of stuff.
BUF has plenty of good DBs. Leodis McKelvin Stephen Gilmore Corey Graham Ross Cockrell Doubt that player was the BPA at that time.
Prove it!! I mean, if that were true, why would Bill Parcells, former NFL coach, say, "if i'm going to cook the meal, then I should be allowed to buy the groceries..." Head coaches have "some" input. How strong it is really depends on the situation. I for one don't believe our current HC had all that strong an input. And I don't know that many have "strong" input into a team's drafting. they certainly have intimate knowledge of the team, but, really, the draft should be handled pretty much exclusively by the GM and his scouting personnel.
Everything I read over the years says the coaches actively participate in the scouting, the interviews, etc of prospective draftees. They go to the combine, Pro Days, workouts, etc. Bryce Petty said he talked a lot with Gailey before the draft. The Gm makes the final call with advice from the scouts, front office and coaches. It esp seemed like Bowles had a lot of say and input in signing free agents. These were players he knows and respects. Rex went to Senior Bowls and everything else. He had a lot of influence. Idzik listened to him and drafted D players like Richardson with his recommendation. What Rex says now means shit. I hope Amaro burns him good next season.
See, here's the problem with what you just wrote. You have ZERO evidence to back up what you say. "He had a lot of influence.." Simply put, you're not in a position to know the level of influence any NFL coach has. You can speculate. You can guess. But you don't KNOW shit. You weren't around in the draft room when the clock went off and decisions had to be made. You weren't at the Senior Bowl. Having influence is not the same as having responsibility. Ask John Idzik. He'll tell you: coaches don't make picks. GMs do. Certainly it behooves a coach and GM to be on the same page, but, probably more often than you think, the GM makes picks that a head coach may not appreciate, much less dictate. It's a weak GM indeed who gives undue influence to his head coach. And it's an ignorant ass who keeps mentioning "head coach's draft picks..." as if that's a real thing. "It esp seemed like Bowles had a lot of say and input in signing free agents..." Again, you just offer this up with nothing behind it. How do you know this? What is, exactly, "a lot of say"? These are just terms that really say nothing definitive.
Bowles had very little to do with these draft selections. Rex had very little to do with any draft selections under Idzik for sure. The GM makes the picks, and owns those decisions. it's getting so old to see the same old posts, "this coach drafted these players", etc.....No they didn't draft anyone.
Clark, stop acting like a knucklehead for a change. I never said that the GM doesn't make the final decision. And each team handles things differently. But there's plenty of information on coaching staffs having input in the information gathering area by attending the combine, etc. When interviewed Petty said he had conversations with Gailey before the draft. And Bowles was right there on TV in the Jets War Room. So there were obviously discussions on formulating a board between scouts, front office people and coaches and even during the draft but the final decision went to the GM. As for Rex he did make the Tajh Boyd pick and I posted an article on it 4 hours ago. Scroll back and read it. I'd love to see Amaro score a couple against Rex's poorly coached Bills D and then go up to him on the sidelines and throw the Td ball right at his fat fucking face.
It was posted on this site a few days ago. It basically said that he had realized a while back that it was best if he stayed out of it and let the GM and Scouts do their jobs. It's his job to work with and develop the players he is given.
