Pass Rusher

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  1. soh_vet

    soh_vet Well-Known Member

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    I'll pile on this shit sandwich. Unfortunately knew, like a lot of Jet fans, that when Baker came in and skipped down to FG range with ease. We were done.

    Any way, my grip is watching the Garretts (Browns) and Wakes (Phins) consistently pressure the QB while our DEs make a play or two then dance like Mark Gastineau. Jenkins is a Calvin Pace doppleganger and i don't even know which JAG they put on the other site (Hewitt?). We need a game changer - this board has been saying it for years, we finally have hour FQB, now be need our FPR. Spend the cap on OLINE, get the best PR in draft (we'll be top 10). No one - outside of that clown Gruden, is trading top flight PR's (unless the Top WR falls to us).

    On another note, this taunting, penalty, dancing shite has got to end. I'm sicking of seeing Q or whoever point a first down like its the first one they ever get, or Trumaine act like he never made a tackle before. JUST GO BACK TO THE HUDDLE AFTER THE PLAY YOU EGO TWAT!
     
  2. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    The taunting and celebrations are definitely a problem.

    This team thinks it better then it is. Soon, finger pointing will start. Then the wheels come off.

    At this point, the Jets dropped a coulple games that they could have won. It’ll be interesting to see their reactions after the first blowout loss.
     
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  3. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    There was a game changer available just a couple weeks ago. A franchise changing pass rusher and future Hall of Famer on the trade block in his prime.

    But the Jets front office were worried about draft picks. Oh well
     
  4. Jetsfansince95

    Jetsfansince95 Well-Known Member

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    your next drink is on me !
     
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  5. Jetsfansince95

    Jetsfansince95 Well-Known Member

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    we can't draft or develop anyone worth a damn but keep our holy cherished draft picks so we can draft another avg player who the coaches think is the second coming of Jesus or better yet draft a bust and throw them to the curb a year or two later ...

    and if we ever do hit on a pick we trade them because we brought in a new system and they render useless.
     
  6. MenOverGod

    MenOverGod Well-Known Member

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    Jets were willing to offer more than Chicago. Raiders didn’t want him in the AFC


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  7. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    You can't just say the Jets front office, 80% of this site seemed set against it also.
     
  8. Jetsfansince95

    Jetsfansince95 Well-Known Member

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    for those who feel that keeping your draft picks are vital here is a list of our first 4 rounds of draft picks since 2001

    2017 1 Jamal Adams - serviceable
    2017 2 Marcus Maye - serviceable
    2017 3 ArDarius Stewart - BUST
    2017 4 Chad Hansen - BUST

    2016 1 Darron Lee - serviceable
    2016 2 Christian Hackenberg - BUST
    2016 3 Jordan Jenkins - serviceable
    2016 4 Juston Burris - serviceable

    2015 1 Leonard Williams - serviceable (pro bowler)
    2015 2 Devin Smith - BUST
    2015 3 Lorenzo Mauldin - BUST
    2015 4 Bryce Petty - BUST

    2014 1 Calvin Pryor - BUST
    2014 2 Jace Amaro - BUST
    2014 3 Dexter McDougle - BUST
    2014 4 Jalen Saunders - BUST
    2014 4 Shaquelle Evans - BUST
    2014 4 Dakota Dozier - serviceable

    2013 1 Dee Milliner - BUST
    2013 1 Sheldon Richardson - pro bowler - serviceable - headcase - traded
    2013 2 Geno Smith - BUST
    2013 3 Brian Winters - serviceable

    2012 1 Quinton Coples - BUST
    2012 2 Stephen Hill - BUST
    2012 3 Demario Davis - serviceable

    2011 1 Muhammad Wilkerson - pro bowler (got his big deal and shit the bed)
    2011 3 Kenrick Ellis - serviceable
    2011 4 Bilal Powell - serviceable

    2010 1 Kyle Wilson - BUST
    2010 2 Vlad Ducasse - BUST
    2010 4 Joe McKnight N/R

    2009 1 Mark Sanchez - serviceable
    2009 3 Shonn Greene - serviceable

    2008 1 Vernon Gholston - BUST
    2008 1 Dustin Keller - serviceable
    2008 4 Dwight Lowery - serviceable

    2007 1 Darrelle Revis - pro bowler (traded)
    2007 2 David Harris - our only second rounder worth a damn

    2006 1 D'Brickashaw Ferguson - pro bowler
    2006 1 Nick Mangold - pro bowler
    2006 2 Kellen Clemens - BUST
    2006 3 Anthony Schlegel - BUST
    2006 3 Eric Smith - BUST
    2006 4 Brad Smith - serviceable
    2006 4 Leon Washington - pro bowler

    2005 2 Mike Nugent - serviceable (not good enough fr a second round kicker)
    2005 2 Justin Miller - serviceable
    2005 3 Sione Pouha - serviceable
    2005 4 Kerry Rhodes - serviceable

    2004 1 Jonathan Vilma - pro bowler (traded)
    2004 3 Derrick Strait - BUST
    2004 4 Jerricho Cotchery - serviceable
    2004 4 Adrian Jones - BUST

    2003 1 Dewayne Robertson - BUST
    2003 2 Victor Hobson - BUST
    2003 3 B.J. Askew - serviceable

    2002 1 Bryan Thomas - serviceable
    2002 2 Jon McGraw - BUST
    2002 3 Chris Baker - BUST
    2002 4 Alan Harper - BUST

    2001 1 Santana Moss - pro bowler (traded)
    2001 2 LaMont Jordan - serviceable
    2001 3 Kareem McKenzie - serviceable
    2001 4 Jamie Henderson - BUST

    that is a total of 64 picks through the first four rounds of the draft where a team is expected to find starters and good role players

    29 have been total busts.
    26 have been servisable including a kicker drafted in the second round.
    1 passed away.

    9 of these guys made a pro bowl and we traded 4 of them ! now you tell me how that works out in a world where we draft, develop and keep your talent.
     
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  9. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    While I agree that we need a pass rusher, we also need to upgrade the OL. Good LT's usually don't become FA's. This is typically the case for pass rushers, but as of now, some decent ones might be available. I'm in the camp of signing a FA pass rusher and using our first round pick on a LT.
     
  10. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Well it explains why we have not made many play offs for a long while
     
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  11. Jetsfansince95

    Jetsfansince95 Well-Known Member

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    BS
     
  12. Chrisiue

    Chrisiue Well-Known Member

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    They had the money for KM, they could have given up the 2 no. 1s and got more out of KM in a few years than they got out of almost every no. 1 and 2 over the last 10 years.
    The front office of this team is a carbon copy of the Mets front office, incompetent.
     
  13. Jetsfansince95

    Jetsfansince95 Well-Known Member

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    why overpay for him he doesn't elevate the team around him ...
     
  14. JETS1116

    JETS1116 Well-Known Member

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    in all fairness, all the first round picks by Mac are showing promise
    Williams, Lee, Adams, Darnold
     
  15. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    Yeah, but I think most of this forum could pick a good player with a Top 5 pick. Hitting on Rounds 2+ is the mark of a good scouting team.
     
  16. Jetsfansince95

    Jetsfansince95 Well-Known Member

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    we can't even hit on first rounders ... sure we got Leo and Adams but they aren't game changers !
     
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  17. JETS1116

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    Leo gets double teamed and still can generate pressure, I think he had 47 pressures last year. and he’s great against the run. Its tough for a 3-4 de to shine, but add an elite pass rusher that requires the double teams instead and Leo will get double digit sacks. Adams has played 19 games and yes he looks like a game changer this year.
     
  18. MoWilkBeast

    MoWilkBeast Well-Known Member

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    And he has been to one Pro Bowl already. So should surely have been listed as a pro bowler, but I guess that wouldn't have looked as good on the list.
     
  19. Donttasemebro

    Donttasemebro Well-Known Member

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    To be fair....The jets offered more than the raiders but the raiders wanted him out of the afc. How is that mccagnan’s fault?
     
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  20. Rollo Tomassi

    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Mac tried hard but the Raiders couldn’t let Mack go to an AFC team.
     

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