I'm not racist because I hate all races equally. Seriously, no race is good. They all have idiots and shitty characteristics. I only hate when people rank one race higher than another. I make fun of them all at once...
Wow, that's a pretty extreme stance, but props to you for posting that. I don't think there will be many here that understand though.
I read this and immediately I pictured a guy sitting down at a desk and making a list of the races on a sheet of paper. Us sports fans make lists often- best QBs, favorite players, power rankings, etc. I am also reminded of a headline at a sports parody site- "Sportswriter Can't Stop Ranking Things."
I'm not sure I agree with this. Hear me out first before you label me as a racist first. I don't think that you can tally up racist actions and make them "even out." A racist action is wrong no matter what. Just because you are treated like shit does not give you the right to treat other people like shit on the same basis. I myself am a minority, and I feel like, while racism is probably present in most people's thoughts, whether they manifest it outwardly, it only serves to make you look paranoid by pulling out the racism card any time in which race is possibly a factor. Could it have been? Yes. Do you have proof? No. The situation is something like the boy who cried wolf. If you cry racism too quickly for trivial things that can easily be accounted for by other factors, even if racism was a factor, and can not prove beyond reasonable doubt that racism was a motivation, people will simply tune you out when it does matter.
:rofl2: OK, somebody name one legitimate reason why Sportscenter shouldn't do the "Sperm Lottery Top 10?"
The most ridiculous thing I've ever read in a forum. I worked for the NYC MTA as a subway train motorman. The racial insults and indignities I went through weren't any fun at all. The difference was that balck on white racism was accepted behavior (whites are in the vast minority at the MTA), but ANY comment whatsoever by a white about ANYTHING related to blacks, including rap music, and people would be brought up on charges. The truth is, I found that blacks were miltantly racist (about 40%). How many whites might have been is unknown to me.... any anti-black statements would be dealt with severely, so I never heard any. But you would not believe the racism from the majority blacks on that job. Even my black friends didn't like it, but they had to keep quiet too, or be ostracized. Blacks seem to think they have some sort of lock on these biases. I had one tell me all about how I benefited from slavery, because I was white. Clueless. And wrong. My family, after having their modest farm taken away and made to work as endentured slaves to English royalty in Ireland were put on potato famine ships, and sent to the states, while most of them died during the trip. When they got to NY, they were homeless, and their children were taken and sent on the so called orphan trains out to the midwest to work as endentured slaves yet again, on farms out there. Many Irish joined the US Army in the civil war, and were used as cannon fodder. It was better than starving and freezing to death on the streets of NY. Many died in the war AGAINST slavery. The sooner blacks can get over this victim syndrome, the sooner things will improve. Guess what? You can't blame verything that goes bad for you on your skin color. I also happen to think it would help if gangsta's and cop killing wasn't so romanticised by black culture, but that is a different topic.
Man i kinda hear you but I just experience it first hand TODAY. I applied for a job that i am truly qualified for and did not get it. The job was given to a lady who has had mental issues. Needless to say I am now in the process of finding another job. It does exsist!!! All I do is work hard to earn and this just totally kills me. Oh and by the way the Irish had it bad also, I have FRIENDS who are Irish
The problem with this statement is that your job will give you a bias view. Just like with my mom dealing with white people who sexually abused their children, depressed, on drugs, etc. Being in that type of environment will skew anyones view. The way I see it, there is garbage on both sides of the racetrack, and there is nothing you can do about it.
I agree with some of this post. You have to distinguish between individual racism and institutional racism. Anyone can be an individual racist if they believe in the inherent inferiority/superiority of one race over another, or if they advocate basing the treatment of others on their race. Blacks can't be very racist at the institutional level, to really be racist at that level, they would have to control a large enough chunk of this nation's institutions to act on whatever individual racist tendencies they might have. However, I am a caucasian man that spent the majority of my life in predominantly black area. Let me tell you that I wholeheartedly feel that as Individuals, African Americans are just as racist as Caucasians. Not that I can walk a mile in anyone's shoes, but I'm willing to bet the bank that generally speaking, life for a Black kid in a white neighberood is probably a little better than life for a White kid in a black neighberhood. I'm just saying...... Racism exists on both sides.
The only problem with that statement is that now you have to consider the ecomonical aspect of the neighborhood, for the most part if a black kid is living in a white neighborhood, he is probably living in the suburbs in a middle class area, where everyone is spread out pretty well, so if you do see it you can avoid it well, and I know I live in a white neighborhood that is slowly getting mixed, when I was in HS, in one school bus that I had no choice but to get in, it felt like the 50s the amount of racism in that bus, when I sat near the front, it was in a area full of racist white people, the tension/racism got so bad while the bus was moving I had to move to the back. But back to my point in a black neighborhood, it would be in the city where everyone is packed in one area so the racism is concentrated.
Wow this is a heavy discsussion and to call anybody a racist is a bold statement and I think you'd need more than this example to label Sharpe a racist. Speaking of the race issue there is a major controversy here in Vegas. A few weeks ago a police officer answering a domestic violence call was shot and killed through the door by a wannabe gangster rapper with an AK-47. This was not the first issue involving gangster rap in Las Vegas. Many will remeber Tupac was shot and killed here and a few years later there was a riot at the MGM Grand involving gangster rappers that resulted in a few murders. 2 summers ago somebody was shot and killed in the parking lot of the Palms following a Snoop concert. Over the summer here 3 more gangster rappers were murdered in North Las Vegas. A few months ago there was another huge fight at the Alladin. The result... our sherriff Bill Young and some high ups in the casino business are pushing a ban on gangster rap on the Las Vegas strip. There is alot of support on this by the right wing in Las Vegas but I think this is a serious violation of the constitution. I can't say it's racially motivated because I don't know the type of people that attend these concerts, I don't care for the music or the gloryfying of degrading women or killing people so I don't listen. I am however under the impression that a large majority of concert goers are middle and upper class white kids. An issue I have with this is I have been to many a rock concert and fights break out. There are fights are every concert I attend in Las Vegas and I've got news for you, the concerts I attend aren't gangster rap. I know these didn't take place in Las Vegas but how about the Rolling Stones concert in San Fran or the Who concert in Cinci, hell more recent the Guns and Roses concert in Montreal. Even at the last Woodstock there were issues. The question is can this be racially motivated and where is the line drawn? When does Will Smith get banned from performing on the strip? After all he is a rap artist. My opinion is it goes deeper than just gangster rap, when does the government start telling us what we can and can't listen to? Like I said there are people here that support this. Supposedly they want to protect their investment the Las Vegas strip because it is the lifeblood of the city. They say they can't protect the poeple on the strip when these types of concerts are going on. What are your thughts?
By no means do I think that there still isn't institutional racism agianst minority groups, there certainly is.... and on a lower, not econmically based environment like the one I experienced at the MTA. But, there in fact was also some economically based bias there too..... such as overtime availabilty, determined at the lower management level, which was also predominantly black. I was just surprised that in an environment that tolerated black on white biases, how prevalent it was. I also noticed that blacks from the islands were much less likely to hold those prejudices. It was much more hard core amoung blacks for the US, and particularly NY. I have to guess much of that is a reaction to having been victimized by racism in their past. That's a pretty normal reaction I believe, as I had to work keep my biases from getting the better of me after getting victimized myself.
I am just like you, while most of my family is Irish Catholic, my uncle married an Orange woman from Belfast. So I have no sectarian blood in me. However there are still problems in Ireland even though there is a peace treaty. Last Saturday pro-IRA supporters rioted on O'Connell Street where the Easter Uprising happened. Bobby Sands 25th anniversary is soon. The USA and Canada has Irish influence wherever you go because of this oppression. My parents are immigrants and they sure as hell never had it easy. Sectaraianism has been a bigger problem post 1998 compared to before it. I just had to get that off my chest. There is racism eevrywhere and on both sides, there is just not much we can do about it.
Yeh I was really mad about the way the republicans were portrayed in the media, they were extremely villainized, thay had just cause to protest IMO, it would be similar to KKK parade in North America, the symbolism stands for oppresion. My family is republican nationalist on 3 sides and loyalist supporters on the other, they used to be Catholic but were bought off with tax breaks and land so I am ashamed of that side of the family. I am excited, this will be the first Easter Rising celebration in my province as, well as the hunger strike of 81. I am reading the proclamation and reading Bobby Sands poetry. I am in an Irish band, I play the bodhran but my band has conflicting views so we will not be performing. The band that is playing is great though so it should be a good time. We have a loyalist pub in Regina, which I have been kicked out of for wearing republic soccer jersey, and we are hoping the owner does not show up and cause problems. It is strange that even in Canada there is tension
I see what your saying, Im surprised it stretches as far as Canada. I have been in a few Republican pubs a few times in my life. The thing that annoyed me was there were even worse riots in the North by loyalists which hardly a peep was made. Now the Republican riots are all over the news. Thats pretty cool about the band you play in, I play the bagpipes and my friends who are in a band want to try and mix it up and see if we can put it together and make some catchy music. Not too far from my house in an area that strecthes betwen Yonkers + the Bronx is a very populated Irish neighborhood. We had Gerry Adams come down a lot and meet with people. Hopefully there will be no tension in your area.
Yeh this event could trigger something but oh well, I guess I'll see when it comes. It does not happen alot here, we do not have a Sein Fein bar or anything like that just a regular Irish pub were everyone is welcome. The other place is anti-pretty much everything. This year with St. Patricks day on a Friday I think it will get ugly there with unkowing people walking in and asking for green beer and stuff like that. I have heard about that strech, is that where McSorely's ale house is, I have freinds who go to visit family sometimes there You and your freinds should really get something going, have you heard of the Real McKenzies, they are a scottish band but they play traditional songs in the punk style. Dropkick Murphy's also have Spicy McHaggis on the pipes. There is always room for more Irish bands! our band is called R?gair? which means rogue, we sound like a mix of Irish Rovers, Altan, and Wolfe Tones, depening on what were playing. I play the bodhran we have: male singer/guitar/mandolin female singer/tin whistle wood flute fiddle bodhran
McSorley's is in Manhatten, very good bar, the area Im referring to is in the Bronx, and in a small part of Yonkers. I love the Celtic punk bands, check out Black 47, they are very good live. My dad saw them in the pubs in the 80s and 90s. Your band sounds like it has a good mix, hopefully I'll get to hear more in the future:beer:
