I am an eternal optimist. All the time I look at the brighter side of the things. I am going back to my first managerial job in my career. I was a great planner but my switch to a managerial job was bumpy. Some of my direct reports were older than me, I didn't know the details of managing people etc. etc. So I really didn't do a good job with my first team. But I learned a lot. I looked back, I evaluated myself, I criticized myself and reassessed some of the things I did in my first managerial job and did a better job on my second opportunity. Adam Gase. He really outsmarted Belli a few times while at Miami. He earned respect of one of the greatest QB's in Peyton Manning. Is it maybe possible he learned from his mistakes about managing a team and will shine in his second job as Jets HC?
Miami, from all reports, was a dysfunctional mess. Maybe worse than us. I'm sure Gase contributed to it...how much...who knows. Besides the comment on Bell's salary, so far he hasn't done anything to make me worried about his ability to lead the team. Having Joe Douglas will probably help. Go Gasilla!!!
I tend to agree with Stinky. The part about outsmarting Belichick really doesn't play into the question here; that shows what he can do calling plays, not how he can manage people. His bio reads that since his adolescence he has had a single purpose drive to coach football but has always seemed to hitch a ride on the coattails of guys like Saban who are not known for being people who consider other choices before doubling down on the path they have chosen. It's the anachronistic "my way or the highway" school. Certainly he should have matured and learned that his boss has every right to ask questions about how he did his job when the results are disappointing long before he had his celebrated blowup with Steven Ross. Has he learned a little humility since then? We'll find out. A year or two out of work or in a much lower position may have given him the time to consider such things. At this time I don't believe the Jets did Gase, or themselves, any favors in dragging him off the discard pile and anointing him with even more power than that which he was incapable of corralling in Miami. Hopefully, his experience in Miami was enough to light the bulb over his head.
I don't think he is as bad as advertised when we first hired him. I watched a practice video and he seems more player friendly than I thought. That being said I am sure he will learn from past experience & not to mention he has Joe Douglas to keep his ego in check. He is now 2nd on the totem poll behind Douglas so he can concentrate on coaching & let Douglas take care of the roster. I think giving Gase all that power in Miami stunt his growth as a HC. The players seem to like his offense. I am optimistic and I expect he will get the most out of his players on offense as will Williams on defense.
Bottom line it's about Ws & Ls. As the saying goes winning cures everything. He has to win early & win big here or he won't be around for very long. With his personality if he doesn't win the media will eat him alive. He has to win right away.
A lot of that was due to ownership. As far as I am concerned with this topic, when things get tough, Gase must dial the ego back. If he can do that, the Jets will win games. If the players support Gase and Gase opens up to the players more, he will learn from his mistakes.
Some folks learn the second time around and some don't. The things that made Gase successful may have been the things that got him fired too. He will benefit from having a potential franchise QB, a friendly face at the GM spot and a Owner who is still learning how everything works. If Gase survives this season and brings the team back to respectability, it would be safe to say he did learn. Now if things go sideways and the play on the field suggests leadership issues, the immediate comparison will be Gase's last stop in Miami and how that ended. Time will tell the tale.
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Brook I love how you keep it real. I too had a bumpy first crack at managing personnel. I would say that it depends on the organization around you. So for Gase, he has gone from dysfunctional (Miami) to dysfunctional (Jets). Let's see how he copes with it.
This sounds like an easy question and answer Of course Gase is smart enough to correct his errors.... However When dealing with people at the literal peak of their respective world (NFL HC) I’m not so sure it’s possible....... But the story goes that Tom Coughlin did it, so it can be done. Let’s see!!!!!!!!!!
I mean, the old man did win two Super Bowls against Tom Brady & Belishit (one time ruining their perfect season) with an average at best quarterback and a stacked D-line.
The JETS also had a certain OC that out smarted Beli a few times as coach of the Dolphins.... so we'll see but That's a pretty epic flying dropkick.... Jimmy Snukka would be impressed
