You know this is all going to happen again next year...

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  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Sunday will be the 48th anniversary of his firing!
     
  2. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    You know you're a Jets fan when you can pull the anniversary of Charley Winner's firing out of your butt. I rarely if ever look anything up, but HE'S STILL ALIVE. He's 99 years old (he'll be 100 in July!), and the Jets STILL haven't won anything! PAIN. I don't think that bodes well for anyone here over 55. The Jets go nowhere, get outlived by Charley Winner. Did I say pain? Ow!
     
  3. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Crazy that Winner is still alive

    I looked at his wikipedia I didn't realize he had such a long career he was on the Dolphins staff all the way up into the 1990s. He began his career in 1958 with the Colts. Don Shula was a defensive back on that team.
     
  4. GoldenShowers

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    A 68 passer rating with 0 TD and an INT is playing his ass off??? LMFAO what fucking universe do u live in?
     
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  5. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    The fact that you're right is pathetic and a true indictment of how stupid and reckless it was to destroy a rebuild that was already in progress to try and win now. Yes, they screwed up on the QB but boo hoo, most teams screw up the QB. There was a way around this without putting every single egg in the Aaron Rodgers basket. With a young team that had multiple good players on cap friendly rookie deals, it would've been pretty easy to do a QB reset with a cheap veteran. You either draft a guy in the mid rounds and let him sit, or sign a SECOND cheap veteran as a backup and worry about a young QB later

    Everyone from the least knowledgeable putz to the most informed NFL insider knew the Jets were a decent - not great, not HOF, not even very good, but decent - QB away from contending. No, not Super Bowl favorites, but no matter what they'd have you believe, we weren't really SB contenders with Rodgers either. He gave us a chance, and just about any "decent" QB would've given us a very similar chance. Rodgers was always overblown here.

    But this is what happens when your owner gets restless and decides he needs a HOFer in here with no regard for how it upsets the balance. And when that same owner is a starstruck imbecile who cares more about money and publicity than winning. I have no doubt he wants to win, but only for what it would do for his pocket and the reputation of the franchise. He doesn't want to WIN the same way we all do.

    As for Douglas, he has a lot of good points but his insistence on for the most part bargain hunting for the OL and backup QBs has hurt the team 3 years in a row. I'm not ready to say what so many others say and accuse him of not being able to admit a draft mistake in Wilson - I still believe it's being forced to a large degree - but he is not without fault by any measure. The entire management team has failed the 52 in order to continue to develop a guy they wish very hard could be good - but not only has he not shown it, they didn't give him the proper tools.

    And spare me the "this team was built for Aaron Rodgers" nonsense - Zach is not ready for a system built for him, so it doesn't matter. Only a handful of guys are here specifically because Aaron is here, and a professional OC should be able to make some adjustments to game plan and system in 10 weeks - and frankly, if your guy can't handle either the system or the adjusted system, he shouldn't be in there. As so many have said, there's not nearly as much shame in keeping Zach as the 2 as there is in CONTINUING with him as the 1 while the rest of the team twists in the wind.

    I'm off the soap box - just so damn tired of Groundhog Day.
     
  6. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Those guys are worse than Zach? For a guy who repeatedly insists he sucks and you just simply don't think we have better options, you sure twist yourself into a pretzel contortionist style to defend him. Most of those guys are clearly better than him and would be an upgrade here. Not a single one would get us over the hump, but if you're talking about being better and having the chance to win more games, a good portion of that list does the job.

    I think it's time for you to come out of the ZW closet and just admit you think he's good and you're a supporter and be done with it.
     
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  7. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    So how do you think the Jets offense would grade with one of those guys in there?
     
  8. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    I love how he lumped Tyrod and DeVito in one line like there's a comparison between the way they played. We would easily be 6–3, possibly 7–2 with Tyrod Taylor. Thinking that he is being outperformed by Zach Wilson is actually comical.

    And DeVito is a third string scrub who never expected to see the field, Wilson better be up performing him.
     
  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    those guys suck worse. thats the whole point. there are a ton of sucky Qbs in the NFL. there are probably 5-6 elite ones. another 5-6 good ones, another 5-10 serviceable ones, and like 30 shit ones.
    I've never heard anyone say you are defending someone when you flat out say someone sucks. you are twisting things. zach can suck but so can other QBs
    the issue is angry jet fans think they are better when a majority here probably never watched one of those Qbs take a live snap
     
  10. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    we would not. thats my point. did you watch tyrod against us before he got hurt? he's playing like zach but less talented. just don't turn it over or fuck it up. the difference is their OC is giving him safe throws and they have a run game. even with that their offense is still worse then ours.
     
  11. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Nyjunc? Is that you?

    You probably don't even know who the guy is, but used to be a guy who posted on his board who would argue in much the same way. Only the fact that he was stuck on an opinion reminded me of him when it comes to you, but this line:

    "you guys would be destroying him if he inserted here and asking for Zach back"

    is the icing on the cake. You're him. No question.

    not a single guy who wants zach out would ever ask for him to come back in, we would scream for the next guy maybe, but not to go back to him.
     
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  12. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    equal at best but likely worse
    even with levis people shit their pants over his 4 TD game. hows he been since? in the pitt game I watched hopkins bail him out of an INT by knocking it out of the Dbs hands (stats don't show that though) and when he had a chance to win it, he had a wide open WR for a TD and threw it into triple coverage and got picked off to end the game. it's the kind of stuff you see from watching the games lol
     
  13. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Dude, you are defending him. You're like the woman who says she loves you and you turn her on, but she's got a headache every time you try and get into bed, or can't get wet when you touch her. Words are words, you say he sucks, but everything in your being when you argue with his board talks about how good he is. lol
     
  14. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    So now we're at the point of comparing a rookie thrown in in the middle of the season to a kid who is 2 1/2 years into his career and still being compared to rookies? Got it.
     
  15. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I've heard the name. not sure if he was here when i came here.
    He probably argued because the vocal minority makes horribly misinformed and irrational comments
    i'm not junc but again further proof all you can do is make up wild BS and think it's right

    as far as "no one would ever" some of the people here literally did that with strevler last year. now those same people are saying well yeah but it's different this time lol
     
  16. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    sorry dude, saying someone sucks means you are not defending them by definition.

    If I give you a choice to eat shit or drink piss and your like we'll i'd rather drink piss becuase shit is worse I can't go look this person loves piss. says it's the best thing to drink ever OMG piss lover.
    thats what you guys are doing
     
  17. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    no were comparing how fans look at 1 games stats and anointed him already without watching him actually take a snap
    every complaint people make about zach i've personally seen the other Qbs make they say are better.
     
  18. cmcm750203

    cmcm750203 Well-Known Member

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    You’re the second person to say he’s junc. Where there’s smoke I guess
     
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  19. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    I would go for alternative number three, neither one. You seem to be stuck on piss because you want to avoid what you think is shit. In this case, it's probably just water with some piss in it.
     
  20. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    lol are you SURE you're not him!!???
     

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