What in the hell is Luis Vizcaino still doing on the Yankees? Is their a more worthless piece of SHIT than this bag of shit reliever? And him wearing 52 just gives me flashes of Jose Contreras, get the fuck outta here! I want Vizcaino DESIGNATED FOR ASSINGMENT BY MONDAY! Get him and his 7.66 ERA the hell outta the Bronx! RANT on whoever! This bum, Abreu, Mussina, Myers, Giambalco, Joseph Paul... It sucks!!
How could I forget my hero... Kyle Farnsworthless. 19 innings, 19 hits, 5.12 ERA. $7 million a year for this loser. And lose the glasses Kyle, you look like a complete dork. I wear glasses, but that shit is ugly.
it really is amazing that when george says that "he's not commenting on jobs until after next few games" we win. Then,when the jobs are made safe thye start napping at gametime again.
I'm not a Yankee fan but I'm ranting on Joe Torre, Joe Shut the F up, you scored 1 run at home, you have no business crying about a called third strike. It's inexcusable that these guys score 1 dam run at home and you are 11.5 out shut the hell up and start swinging your bats. I'm frustrated for you guys too.....
The Yankees are bad, I sound like a bad fan, but since I am going on vacation this week, I don't plan on watching another Yankees game until the Red Sox series, maybe not then either. Hopefully they go undefeated during this stretch of me not watching. If that occurs, I will suck it up and continue for the team's sake ha ha.
From a baseball fan, and not a Met fan, POV, there's really nothing the Yankees can do but drop a few of the minor guys like Luis Vizcaino and then wait. Cashman and the rest of the FO screwed up when they handed all those no-trade clauses out, and even if they're 20 games out it'll be hard to trade anyone and improve the farm system. Does anyone know who DOESN'T have a trade clause.
I've been offline a few days, and still sort of am, but I have been suffering through these games. We are beyond help at this point. There's nothing good about this team anymore. Jeter, Posada and ARod cannot carry this team. I always watch Sox series, but I think after this weekend, I'll be taking a vacation from this team. I hate sounding like a fair weather fan, but I just can't watch this. Losing because we allow things like home to be stolen, and ruining yet another brilliant Pettitte performance is unacceptable. George needs to change his tune and fire everyone at this point. It won't fix anything, but at least it would send a message to the almost 20 guys who are enjoying spending their checks without working for them. I've never seen ARod and Pettitte as angry as I did last night. And with good reason.
It's natural to have a bad year every once in a while, it happens. Everyone doesn't deservd to be fired b/c we might miss the playoffs for the first time in 13 seasons. I think Joe will be gone at the end of the year but firing Cashman would be a huge mistake as he is trying to fix alot of th wrong moves made by george and others. A few years ago people thought we had a terrible farm system and now our system looks pretty damn good and he deserves alot of credit. Heneeds to try to get rid of some overpriced vets and keep building, rebuilding was inevitable but we have a bunch of young to prime arms and now we need to get younger in the field and w/in a couple of years we'll be a contender again. he can easily try to pacth some holes and we'll be back to where we have been the past few years but I want something more and I am willing to sacfrice a couple of years to get there. Going through this playoff run has been alot of fun but if you thought they would never end you were fooling yourself.
Maybe it is time to fire some of these players? Torre & Cashman will end up getting the blame for this mess but everyone knows it isn't there fault..
That's right and wrong at the same time. Cashman brought these guys in. Mistake #1. (But 20/20 highsight...) It's Joe's job to have this team mentally prepared to play 162 games, right now, they are mentally prepared for one of each 10, unacceptable. Cashman put these misfits together, and Joe can't lead them to water. The problem is half theirs, and the other half belongs to the almost 20 grown men who feel like their salaries are not high enough to warrant an actual effort. If I were in charge right now, I would put anyone on the trade block whose name is not Alex, Derek, Jorge, Chien-Ming, Phil, or Andy. F everyone else. Then I'd just buckle down, and let Joe ride the storm out the rest of the year. It's a shitstorm no matter what angle you view it from.
Seriously, send these lazy bastards a message. At this point I think you guys could do that and call up Scranton's team and get 1000% more effort from them. It's sickening to watch a team get payed so much and put in so little effort; reminds me of the Alomar years at Shea just a few years back.
I can't even wake up without seeing or reading the paper on how bad this Yankee team is, but oh well. But no matter, i'll be watching, at minimum listening to Harold Moskowitz and Suzyn Waldman every night I can to witness this amazing collapse. You've seen some shit years, real shitty years, but I haven't, at least to this extent, it's new territory for me and I don't know how to take it since it's so immune to me seeing the Yankees play like this. But ya know, i'm not going to say "it was bound to happen" but I have to watch this team, no breaks here...No matter how bad it is, whether its the Starters, 90% of the bullpen, the bats, the defense, whatever...Makes me put things in perspective when I think about the Yanks, and not just assume October is a given for the Yanks...
I agree with what you are saying.. Now I wouldn't know this as I don't follow the Yanks as much as you guys but would you really blame Cashman for putting this team together? It seems to me that this team is the remnants of Steinbrenner and his ways. As for Torre, the guy has won something like 10 straight division titles, he deserves to finish out at least one stinker of year, he has earned that. I'm one who believes that a baseball coach has little effect on the overall outcome of the season. I can understand wanting a change, maybe it has gotten stale with Joe but a change at the manager spot right now is going to be just that, a change. Unless these players start performing the way they are capable of, nothinh will change. IMO the best bet right now is to clean house of anyone who can be traded, excluding the names that you mentioned. Unfortunately for you guys though, I wouldn't be surprised if George takes the opposite approach and starts trading young talent for overpriced, past there prime stars, ie.. Helton.
Pettite is the reason he stole home so how brilliant of a performance could it have been? They should be angry at themselves, their bonehead plays cost their team the game.
That's very diplomatic of you Junc but with the ridiculous competitive advantage the Yankees have in payroll and the addition of the wild card this should never happen. This team has a 200 million dollar payroll and they're out of it in May... pathetic.
To be honest, I was just talking about the 80s with my brothers over the weekend. It was never this bad. Never. The Yankees in the 80s were always missing "something." Whether that was one solid cleanup hitter, or 3 quality starters, or a pen, or a good defensive catcher, whatever, they were always "one piece" away. Watching was exciting, even when losing, because you knew that someday it was going to work out. Even if it didn't, you knew they would end in second or third place. This team has nothing "missing" except heart. As much as SportsCenter has this country convinced that the starting rotation is garbage, that's a load of shit. This rotation is as solid as ANY rotation in the sport. However, our pen has been severely mismanaged, and only partially due to injuries, by Joe, and can now blow any lead. To compound the problem, we have a lineup that except for the 2, 4, and 5 spots, cannot be counted on for any production. And that's hurting Alex's production. He's not getting pitches to hit anymore. (I'm honestly surprised no one is booing him yet. He's been striking out lately. Maybe, just maybe, the fans have finally woken up and realized that if he isn't getting shit to hit, since pitchers can serve up down the middles to 6 of the other guys in the lineup with no worries, he can't get the 10 run homers.) This is BY FAR, the WORST Yankees team I've EVER seen. And it isn't because I am spoiled. It's because the only guys who have ANY emotion about the losing whatsoever, are the only guys I mentioned should not be available for trade. Lack of talent is bearable. Lack of desire is not. That's why I have been all for Joe's firing. I believe a manager is DIRECTLY responsible for motivation. Otherwise, what do they really do? Look at the successful teams of the past few years. Chicago White Sox, Boston Red Sox, St. Louis Cardinals. These are all teams where the managers are credited by the players for motivation. (Regardless of the insanity one of them might show.) I know a lot of guys don't believe that managers make a difference, but if that were true, why would any team hire them? And if managers didn't matter, why did Mangini take the same core Jets team to the playoffs, while Herm took them on vacation? A manager's SOLE job is to provide motivation. Pat Riley, Bill Parcells, Mike Holmgren, Terry Francona. All motivators, and all successful. Everything else is easily left to the supporting coaches. As I've argued many a time over the past few years, the Mets have the coach that provided the spark for the Yankees to win in the late 90s managing their team. This year, you're seeing the results.
Payroll gives you an advantage, it doesn't guarantee anything- if it did we'd have alot more than 26 Championships right now.
