Yankees @ Tigers, 4/27-4/29

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  1. Scikotic

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    Monday, 4/27 : CC Sabathia (1-1, 4.81 ERA) vs. Verlander (0-2, 9.00 ERA)
    Tuesday, 4/28 : Phil Hughes (0-0, 0.00 ERA) vs. Jackson (1-1, 2.77 ERA)
    Wednesday, 4/29 : Joba Chamberlain (0-0, 3.94 ERA) vs. Porcello ( 1-2, 4.50 ERA)

    The Yanks come off a disappointing sweep at the hands of our rival sox. They play against the AL Central's 1st place Tigers. If they want to develop any momentum, they need to win 2 out of 3 before heading home to the New Yankee Stadium to play the Angels this weekend. Phil Hughes also makes his season debut in place of the struggling Chien-Ming Wang. Hughes has been performing very well in AAA, with 19 strikeouts and only 3 walks in 19 1/3 innings in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.
     
  2. AlioTheFool

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    If the pen can manage to not FUBAR leads in the 7th and 8th, I feel like they can take the first two. I don't think Joba will go long enough into the game to prevent the bullpen from imploding.

    I'm dying to see Hughes. Can't wait.
     
  3. Cappy

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    If he only goes four innings, are we going to get a rant about how he's a total bust? :smile:
     
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    You know damn well I wouldn't do that. I have more confidence in Hughes than most people.
     
  5. Cappy

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    I know... I'm just poking fun at your recent love of small sample size judgments.
     
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    Small sample size my ass. This team has sucked for years and theres one common denominator---Brian Cashman
     
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    :rolleyes:

    That's just ignorant.
     
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    you love that Cashman.....so let me ask you....all the under achieving the Yanks have done the last 4, 5 years.....just coincidence? You've told me its not the pen, its not the manager(s), its not the GM........its not our lack of farm system.....what exactly is it? ...P.S Nick Swisher is proving why hes not an everyday player
     
  9. typeOnegative13NY

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    Is it just me,or does this ump have a really bad strike zone that has our guys swinging at crap? he's called strike 3 on some really outside balls
     
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    the one on pena was bullshit.....melky loves to swing at pitches in his eyes doesnt he
     
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    8 k's in 5 innings for Verlander so far. Guy has been horrible this year but hes just breezing through our lineup
     
  12. Cappy

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    The part that I was saying was ignorant was that the team has "sucked" for years now. Oh, wait... you're one of those "win the world series every year or we suck" guys, huh?

    If I were going to blame anyone, though, it'd probably be Torre... mostly for several obvious blunders in the 2003 and 2004 postseasons. Maybe Steinbrenner and his Tampa faction for some ill-advised acquisitions, as well. (RJ, Sheff over Vlad, etc.)


    P.S. Nick Swisher's OPS is still over 1.000. (Hint: That's really, really good.)
     
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    yeah because he had 3 or 4 huge games. Small sample size dude. If you tear your eyes away from the stas and simply watch the games, youd see that he is quickly headed for the suck. Just like when you look at the amount of runs the Yankees score-they get shut out two days in a row but score 18 on night three. They lose two out of three but your stat book says they averaged 6 runs a game. Ease off the stats a bit dude, really.
     
  14. Cappy

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    I realize it's a small sample size for Swisher so far. But you know what's an even smaller sample size? Like, by a lot? The number of games that apparently have you convinced that he's not an every day player.

    I watch all the games. I assume you do, as well. If you do, I also assume that you realize that baseball has variation. You streak. You slump. It averages out over the long haul.

    Nick Swisher has been a solid to very good major league baseball player for four seasons. He sucked last year, but even then, his peripherals hinted that he wasn't likely to repeat that line. (Anyone who hits line drives over 20% of the time is not going to bat .219 consistently.)
     
  15. AlioTheFool

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    See, the problem I have with what you're saying Cappy is that you're right, except that it's conditional.

    Sure, it will all "average out" by September 30th. In the meantime though, when are the hits coming? Is Teixeira smacking the crap out of the ball with the bases empty? Is he then "averaging out" his Ks with RISP? (And while I say Teixeira, you can plug any player's name in there.)

    I'd rather a guy went 1 for 4 with a single and 3 RBI than 3 for 4 with two doubles, a solo shot, and 1 RBI. Great personal stats are only useful if they led to helping your team win.

    BTW: Yankees getting owned again tonight.
     
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    And the thing is, it all averages out. It does. I promise you, it really does. It might not seem like it when things are going bad. And it might be hard to see when you're only going by what you remember. But it does.

    The guy who goes 3/4 with one RBI can't control whether there are guys on base in front of him. The guy who goes 1/4 with 3 RBI might get it on a fluky flare double down the line. But over 162 games, it averages out. It really, really does. There is variation, of course, because 162 games isn't an infinitely large sample size, but you don't believe how often your eyes will deceive you... unless you look at it critically. I know some people like to add the human element into the game, but that just leads to more incorrect assumptions, more often than not.

    I mean, jonnyd was talking about streakiness in run scoring... but I bet he doesn't remember or realize that the Yanks have scored at least 4 runs in all but one game this year (not counting tonight).
     
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    three straight hits off Rodney.

    Posada is at the plate with no outs and he represents the tying run.
     
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    Posada grounds into a double play, short circuiting the rally.
     
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    Looks like another freaking losing April.
     
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    Cappy, I respect your opinion as you obviously have a good grasp on this game...But you're talking about this time like they didn't just go drop half a billion dollars on players to prevent just this from happening. If this was the Mets or another team that didn't spend alot to fix their problems, your arguments would hold more weight; But it's the Yankees, and they spent alot of money.

    You can't blame the teams collective 4.00+ era on injuries. That's just shit pitching.
     

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