Yankees @ Cleveland 4/25-4/28

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  1. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    2nd game.

    Posada ties it with a bases clearing double!
     
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    love it. We need to get a win here....Posada is on a tear, picking up where he left off last season.
     
  3. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    I haven't been watching the whole game,but i think he hit that coming in off the bench too. He just threw out grady to end the inning!
     
  4. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    and we lose again
     
  5. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    kennedy started no? pitched well at least right? we suck balls though
     
  6. Y4NK335

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    Kennedy had a quality start, oh well hopefully the bullpen can turn things around..
     
  7. AlioTheFool

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    I'm no longer counting on it.

    The best reliever not named Mo or Joba is out for the rest of the year. Ohlendorf gives me as much confidence as Farnsworth at this point. Traber is Myers all over, except his delivery looks like a broken robot. Hawkins is crap.

    Our starters I believe are going to be fine. The kids are coming along with each start. Pettitte had a breakdown the other day, but that will happen once in a while. Wang has made me nervous, but he'll still manage 15+.

    It's time for Cashman to start making phone calls and seeing if he can get some quality pen help in here.
     
  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I'm just curious- what is Joe Torre doing wrong this year that is hurting the Yankees?
     
  9. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    fair point junc. especially with girardi already fucking up in boston by not walking manny and in chicago bu not walking crede and that debacle of holding kennedy waiting for the rain to start and then stop and then start and then stop....what the fuck was that?Girardi at this point couldnt possible get more than a C if you were to greade the first month.
     
  10. Cappy

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    There's no need for phone calls, unless you're talking about phone calls to Scranton/Trenton. The beautiful thing about the past few years is that we've stockpiled a ton of arms.

    Bruney's gone, and that stinks, but let's take a look here:

    Hawkins... I don't trust him, really, but he threw two innings of one-hit ball yesterday. Strange time to call him "crap."

    Ohlendorf can be very good, I believe, especially if he's used in one-inning bursts. But since he's unexpectedly thrust into this long man role with the starting pitchers struggling, I think he's a little burnt at the moment.

    Traber is no longer on the team. Hasn't been for a couple of days. He's back at Scranton.

    Which brings me back to my first point: We have a ton of arms to do the job if anyone falters. Britton, Patterson, Ramirez, Rasner, Igawa, Veras, White, Horne, Marquez, Cox, McCutchen, etc.

    The last thing I want is for Cashman to make a trade for a reliever.

    Nothing, but he's doing plenty to hurt the Dodgers.

    Starting Juan Pierre over Kemp, for one. Yanking Loizia - who had been cruising - for a pinch hitter with no one on and two out in the sixth inning, for another.

    The Dodgers are also off to their worst start since 1996, so I guess that Torre magic just hasn't had a chance to work yet.




    And Alio, you're calling the Kennedy move in KC a "debacle"? Do you even remember the conditions that the umps had them play through? That game should've been called. That it wasn't was a total joke.

    Sounds like someone put on their cranky pants this morning. :smile:

    ETA: Oh, it wasn't you Alio. Never mind. The complaining makes a lot more sense now.


    And for the record, I'm not one of the people who thinks Girardi is infallible or anything. I tend to believe that most managers are pretty much the same, and most are mediocre to bad when it comes to in-game moves. Torre, for all his positive qualities, though, was worse than most managers, as far as his in-game maneuvers. By no small margin.
     
  11. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    its very reassuring to know that strappy thinks alls well with the yankee pen. whew.
     
  12. Cappy

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    Yes, because that is exactly what I said... that everything is well with the pen. :rolleyes:

    My point was that a trade for a reliever is unnecessary right now, and might be ill-advised. The traded-for reliever is far from guaranteed to be effective (read: Embree, Alan), and you usually give up more than you get for them. The Yanks have plenty of ML-ready options in the minors, and would do better to try them first, before trading quarters for a dime.

    By the way, what's the point of the strappy thing? Do you think it's funny, or are you trying to get under my skin or something? I only ask because as far as name-calling goes, it's pretty lame. Go nuts if it suits you, though.
     
  13. The Dark Knight

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    Wang 5-0. Rivera save. Yankees win 1-0. I like it.
     
  14. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Posada reportedly headed to DL
    Right shoulder issue has hampered catcher's ability to throw
    By Bryan Hoch / MLB.com

    Yankees Headlines

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    • Chamberlain available after two days' rest
    • Matsui rests as Yankees counter lefty


    CLEVELAND -- Jorge Posada was a last-minute scratch from the Yankees' lineup on Sunday with a recurrence of the right shoulder problem that limited his duty earlier this week, and appears headed to the disabled list with a serious injury, according to a report.
    The New York Times reported on its Web site Sunday that Posada has a tear in his subscapularis muscle and is expected to visit Dr. James Andrews, the noted Birmingham, Ala.-based orthopaedic surgeon. The Yankees said there would be no announcement on the injury until after the game at Progressive Field.

    The Times reported that Posada has already shared his MRI results with Dr. Andrews, and though a preliminary diagnosis did not show surgery to be necessary, Posada's continued troubles may have raised the issue again.

    Posada, 36, had a pinch-hit three-run triple in Saturday's Yankees loss to the Indians, and the injury has not affected him at the plate. But he has been unable to put velocity on his throws, complaining of a "dead" arm after the Royals stole four bases on him April 8.

    That has limited the amount of catching that Posada -- who signed a four-year, $52.4 million deal before this season and said he intends to catch all four years -- has been able to do. Posada caught three of the Yankees' last five games entering the weekend, plus four more innings Saturday, and has also seen time at first base and designated hitter. He is batting .302 with one home run and 11 RBIs in 18 games.

    Before Sunday's game, Posada was walking through the Yankees' clubhouse with an ice wrap over his right shoulder, notable because he had not yet conducted any baseball activities.

    Posada was penciled in the Yankees' starting lineup Sunday, but a change was announced shortly before first pitch, with Jose Molina replacing him behind the plate. Molina is the Yankees' only remaining catcher on the active roster, with veteran Chad Moeller designated for assignment Friday.
     
  15. AMJets

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    It is actually pretty funny to see that train wreck in LA. He's become an even worse in-game manager, if that's possible.
     
  16. Cappy

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    Indeed. I'm guessing that not too many Yankee fans watch the Dodgers games, so they probably miss it. I have Billingsley, Ethier, and Loney on a couple of fantasy teams, though, and have been following the Dodgers a bit because of that (especially with Ethier actually having to fight Pierre for a starting job, which I find baffling).

    And here's something I found on another site... someone put together the stats so far this season for the Yanks' in-house bullpen options. So if Bruney's out, and Farnsworth and Hawkins can't be trusted, here is a list of players who can/should be given a shot before Cashman goes out and trades Tabata for Heath Bell or something. Check it:


    Ramirez: 9 IP - 2 H - 1 BB - 13 K - 0.00 ERA
    Veras: 10.0 IP - 6 H - 3 BB - 16 K - 1.80 ERA
    Phillips: 12.1 IP - 3 H - 4 BB - 10 K - 2.19 ERA
    Britton: 11.0 IP - 11 H - 4 BB - 10 K - 2.45 ERA
    Albaladejo: 7.0 IP - 5 H - 4 BB - 5 K - 1.29 ERA
    Patterson: 9.2 IP - 9 H - 3 BB - 8 K - 4.66 ERA
    Rasner: 25.0 IP - 13 H - 5 BB - 21 K - 0.72 ERA
    Igawa: 27.2 IP - 21 H - 6 BB - 29 K - 2.93 ERA
    McCutchen: 24.2 IP - 17 H - 6 BB - 19 K - 1.46 ERA
    Robertson: 14.0 IP - 7 H - 6 BB - 21 K - 0.64 ERA.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Damn..how come you just knew Posada would have an injury like this after his awesome contract year?

    On a bright note, Wang was as good as he has ever been today. 5-0 with that one bad game in the middle that he didn't get the decision for.

    Things aren't looking good right now but at least nobody else in the division is doing much better.
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I don't think there is any plans to trade Veras at all. Or any of the position players either.
     
  19. AMJets

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    I'm not following you. Did you think I was saying there was a plan? My post was in reference to Alio suggesting that Cashman "start making phone calls" regarding the bullpen's state. What I was pointing out with the list of those guys and their stats is that we have somewhere close to a dozen guys who can and should be tried out before looking to acquire a reliever via trade.

    And yeah, 10P10, I wasn't even including Melancon and Sanchez, since their timetable has them making appearances later rather than sooner.
     

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