Yahoo Sports: New York Jets, Rex Ryan, Mark Sanchez: How Quickly We Forget

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  1. hwismer

    hwismer Active Member

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/york-jets-rex-ryan-mark-sanchez-quickly-forget-150200906.html

    By Adam Waksman

    COMMENTARY | The New York Jets: Super Bowl contenders. It seems like an anachronism, a joke, a distant memory. Amazing that it was less than two years ago. The Jets, coming off of back-to-back trips to the AFC Championship appearances, one of the most complete teams in the NFL, were heading for shot number three at their first Super Bowl since 1969.

    But that was almost two years ago. Now it is 2013, and writers and analysts across the country are competing to see who can have the most pessimistic prediction for the Jets. First it was 7-9 at best, then a repeat of 6-10, then 4-12. Now with the preseason looming, the real crazies are coming out, with predictions like 2-14 or 0-16.

    There is nothing quite like mob mentality, and it feeds on itself. If the offseason lasted forever, then without a doubt after a few years of this, we as a nation would all agree that the Jets will go 0-16 and we would all be calling for Geno Smith's retirement before his first snap.

    Yet the beauty is that the offseason does not last forever, and that with real games comes reality. And how quickly we forget reality.

    ... That the Jets Usually Win

    How quickly we forget that the Jets win more than they lose. Pessimists often call for more of the same, citing "same old Jets." But if the Jets win the majority of their games, does "same old Jets" mean more wins than losses?

    In the Rex Ryan era (since 2009) the Jets are 34-30 in the regular season and 4-2 in the playoffs. The year before Ryan was hired, the Jets went 9-7. If the Jets were to lose 13 games or more (as seems to be the common prediction), it would be the first time since 1996.

    Thus, we should at least remember that predicting a 3-13 season is not predicting more of the same but is in fact predicting something radically new.

    ... That the Jets Were 6-10 Last Season

    How quickly we forget that these Jets (that's right, even with Mark Sanchez) won six games last year and were in playoff contention until Week 15. Despite having no Darrelle Revis (injury), no Santonio Holmes (injury) and no Sione Pouha (injury), the team won six games.

    Now when citing why the Jets should be worse this year, the common logic is the loss of Revis, the loss of Pouha and the inconsistency of Holmes. But wait. If the team won six games without those guys last year, why would not having them this year mean they should be worse? The Jets have lost nobody who contributed significantly last year (yes, I am counting LaRon Landry). So how could any rationalist expect the team to be worse than last year?

    ... That Mark Sanchez Does More Than Buttfumble

    Anyone who has followed the Jets the past six months knows that it is somewhat obligatory to mention the word "buttfumble" in any Jets-related piece. I think it is at a point now where fans will actually show up to games expecting Sanchez to take a snap and run headfirst into the rear end of whichever offensive lineman he wants to embarrass that day.

    How quickly we forget that Mark Sanchez has a winning record as a starter in both the regular season and playoffs. How quickly we forget that he has outplayed both Peyton Manning and Tom Brady head-to-head. Sure, that one play (which did not even matter because the Jets had lost that game anyway) was pretty silly. But acting like it will ever happen again is simply foolish.

    And how quickly we forget that Sanchez was the starter last year and had his worst year. What we learned in 2012 is that no matter how awful Sanchez plays, the Jets can still win six games. Six games is their absolute floor, because with Sanchez having a terrible season (the worst of his career by far) the rest of the team still managed to pull out six victories.

    ... That Rex Ryan is a Defensive Genius

    How quickly we forget that as long as Rex Ryan is the head coach of the Jets, they will field a smart, strong, vicious, proud and unpredictable defense that will terrorize opposing offenses. With huge new pick-ups this year in Sheldon Richardson, Dee Milliner, Antwan Barnes and Antonio Garay to go along with quality veterans like Muhammad Wilkerson, David Harris, Kenrick Ellis, Quinton Coples, and Antonio Cromartie, there is no doubt the Jets will once again field an elite defense.

    My conclusion is the only logical one. This team is the same or better in every respect from last year. However terrible your memories of the 2012 Jets might be, that team went 6-10. Thus (with an easier schedule this year to boot), the absolute floor for the Jets is 6-10. A more reasonable prediction would be 8-8 or 9-7.



    And this is all assuming Sanchez is still the quarterback. If rookie second-round pick Geno Smith can surprise everyone and take the starter job (and succeed), then the sky is the limit. But if we want to play it safe, we should not expect Smith as a rookie to necessarily be much better than Sanchez.

    If you want my prediction, I expect that whoever plays quarterback (either one last year of Sanchez or a learning year for Smith), the Jets will go 8-8. There is room for that to fall as low as 6-10 if things go poorly but also room for the team to have good fortune and go as high as 11-5.

    Adam Waksman is a Yahoo! contributor in sports. He also covers the New York Jets for Bleacher Report, where he is a Featured Columnist and award-winning blogger.
     
  2. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    This guy is about to get fired.
     
  3. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Finally. A realist. Good article.
     
  4. G_know4Pres

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    An optimistic Jets article?? I think my heart skipped a beat.
     
  5. TNJet

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    Puff, Puff, Pass
     
  6. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I don't understand your existence here. If you aren't here to support the Jets, then leave the fucking forum dude.

    And this isn't optimism, it's the damn truth. Jets cannot get any worse than last season. It's a shame people let pessimistic articles, users and columnists get the best of them. The Jets defense will keep them in games, and with a better OC that has a proven system in place we should be better than last season BY DEFAULT.
     
  7. Burnz

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    9-7 isn't far off as long and health and a couple bounces/luck come our way
     
  8. Lehtonen

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    He's wrong about Intchez, but he's right overall. Good article.
     
  9. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    more than few people have been saying this.
     
  10. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    awwww, you mad? This article lost credibility when it stated how Sanchez outplayed brady and Manning. Our defense did that. Now go back to the kiddy table.
     
  11. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Wow finally a good jet article that I can agree with
     
  12. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    The article isn't just about Mark Sanchez. The Jets were successful as a TEAM. That's it.

    Every post you make is about Mark. Either you are insecure and you wish to have butt sex with the guy or he got with a girl you stalked. Which is it?

    Just once I would love to see you make an intelligent post.
     
  13. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    As long as we have Rex calling the defense the team will be fine. However QB play will determine if the Jets seriously contend for a playoff spot.
     
  14. RuJFan

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    That's not really fair, he also likes to trash Rex every chance he gets.
     
  15. displacedfan

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    It is doable looking at the schedule right now. The big question marks are ST and offense. With Westy gone, will the ST slip up a notch and become pedestrian? And the offense, well we have a 500+ page on the QB position, but we also have question marks at WR, RB, and TE. Basically skill position players on the offense, all question marks except Jeremy Kerley. Defense, we know, is going to be great.
     
  16. TonyMaC

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    Oh man, somebody actually comes to their senses and cuts through the caricature Jests and instead looks at the 3 dimensional Jets.

    This guy is going to be called an idiot even though he's right isn't he?

    The team is in a better position than many might be figuring, so it'll "shock" everybody when they are half decent and are fighting for a playoff spot come december.

    Not saying they'll be great but damn it I'm tired of hearing about the cartoon character Jets that don't exist. This was like an oasis in a desert.
     
  17. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    I mostly agree with the article

    In spite of a horrific season at QB, and with no Revis or Holmes, they won 6.

    They reloaded somewhat on D and Mark won't be as bad.

    I don't think they should lose more than last year.

    The caveat is that the young D is still unproven, and the "new" Offense is too- and the schedule is still hard.
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Maybe he said it because your entire existence here can be summed up with two very non-analytical viewpoints.

    You offer nothing as a poster on these forums. I'm sure that even the people that agree with your overall viewpoint are tired of you as a person.

    By the way, you give credit to the defense for getting the team to where they were and still spend half of your posts hoping that the guy that created that defense gets fired. Brilliant.

    You have no real purpose on a football forum aside from the screaming need to be ridiculed for stupid posts.
     
  19. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Sigh.....

    You know what I hate about you byz, the fact that you sum up everything that needs said before I get to a thread most of the damn time. You nailed it with that one.

    As for the article, it sums up what most rational people would see looking back at the last couple years. Unless we see a huge drop off in running back play do to the loss of Greene, or our safteys completely shit the bed, this team is of similar build and talent to last year if not better in many areas. If one of our QBs can somehow not turn the ball over 30+ times we will be in good shape.
     
  20. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    Listen Kermit, this is a fan board. I listen to your bullshit, you can listen to mine. I don't troll or attack posters like you and others on here. So why don't you look in the mirror and do some self affirmations.
     

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