Waiting on word on DeSean Jackson and looks like he's staying in Philly, at least for now. Comp Picks added to my latest mock, I will do one more before the few days before the draft in early May. Round 1) BRANDIN COOKS, WR, OREGON STATE Round 2) MARCUS ROBERSON, CB, FLORIDA Round 3) JOEL BITONIO, OT/G, NEVADA Round 4) SHAYNE SKOV, ILB, STANFORD Round 4) MARTAVIS BRYANT, WR, CLEMSON Round 4) JORDAN TRIPP, OLB, MONTANA Round 5) MICHAEL CAMPANARO, WR, WAKE FOREST Round 6) JOE DON DUNCAN, TE, DIXIE STATE Round 6) KENNY LADLER, S, VANDERBILT Round 6) LADARIUS PERKINS, RB, MISS STATE Round 6) BRYN RENNER, QB, NORTH CAROLINA Round 7) TOM HORNSEY, P, MEMPHIS I could write explanations for each player, but will answer any questions.
Thoughts: Love Cooks in Round 1, would be fine with him if no Jackson. Cool with a Corner in round 2. I went with Baptiste, you go with Roberson. He has seemingly been the better of the two corners during this draft process between he and Purifroy so a good shot he goes ahead of his teammate. Not a big fan of Bitonio there....I love her versatility but I think we have bigger needs at TE and S to go after someone who'd be the "6th" OLineman in round 3. I think Bitonio might slip to Day 3 and could be had with the Bucs 4th round pick anyhow but who knows. Skov is a nasty, physical player but again I think we wait a round or two to get our Inside Linebacker. If anything, we draft Harris' replacement by next year's draft if worse comes to worse. Bigger needs for me at TE and S. Bryant is interesting. I think he is limited to being a red zone only threat year 1 while he learns. I still think despite his BCS killer game that he should have stayed for another year, especially in this class. I'd have no problem with him but I think taking two WRs before a single TE or S. Bryant has huge upside though, I do like the player even if he bombed in his Pro Day by many accounts which might be the reason he falls to Day 3. Can't say I have seen much of Tripp but he's gotten a lot of rave reviews and I'd be cool with an OLB with one of the fourth round picks. Alright we're getting a bit much with the WR's....another player I like even if he has some worrisome health issues but 3 WRs are really pushing it now, especially with not one tight end or safety taken. I feel those two along with CB are the 3 biggest needs on this team....yes even over WR. I do think Campanaro slides to Round 6 and if we added just one WR prior to that round, I'd be all over him. Joe Jon Duncan....never seen the guy or really heard of his play but we get a TE. I just don't know about Round 6.....that would seem like a pure project TE pick which we have in Sudfeld. I expect the Jets to go be heavy-handed after a blocking oriented TE like a Niklas or Fiedorowicz. Ladler is cool with me as a pure depth safety.....but I think we need more than that. We need a starting Free Safety, no way we go with Landry/Bush/Reed(?) and a 6th round rookie. I think we need to draft two safeties this draft....would have no problem with Ladler as long as he's the 2nd S chosen. Perkins was one of those players who had a better 2012 than 2013 and would have been better off declaring for the 2013 NFL Draft. Seems like a somewhat fast back, sounds good to me. Renner intrigues me. Don't know if we take a QB given we signed Vick, have Geno around and the coaching staff has no qualms on Simms but Renner has a lot of good things going for him. Seems like a worthwhile No.2 backup for years in the NFL. I think Hornsey might be the more realistic option for the Jets when acquiring a punter. KVDK might get taken a round or two higher than he really should. We need a punter in the late rounds and we get the projected 2nd best one. Good pick. Altogether, I don't know about the 3 WRs drafted. Don't get me wrong, I like all 3......all 3 offer different strengths and a Decker/Cooks/Kerley/Bryant/Campanaro 5 WR group is promising....I just don't think both Hill AND Nelson get cut. I see both fighting for one spot but I don't know if they fall on the shoulders of 3 rookie WRs given Rex/Marty are fighting for their jobs. If we don't get Jackson, two WRs make sense. I just can't be happy we take a 3rd WR over TE or S but I know you value BPA over Need WW85. I do too.....though at some point we have to go after some gaping holes here and I just don't know if the TE or S you have here are the answers from the get go.
Baker, I can't remember the last time I felt as strongly about a Rd 1 player that fits the Jet's needs as much as Brandin Cooks. I would have gone TE in rd 2, but the need of CB trumps the TE need. I not as big as a CJ fan at TE as most, you know I follow the Big Ten very close. Bitonio was the BPA and totally impressed me Senior bowl week. 3 WRS...It's bit much, but Mike Camp can go on the PS. I have a strong feeling the Wake Forest Idzik connection makes a lot of sense. Joe Don Duncan got hurt and couldn't participate the past few months, he has crazy #s, but against weaker competition. Ladler had some poor combine #s, he's a better prospect than his current ranking.
I really hate the idea that the Jets might draft based on single positions of need in this draft. There is so much talent out there and the Jets have so many needs that they shouldn't have to draft based on a one, two or even three position checklist. FS, OLB, TE, WR, CB, OG, ILB, OT, etc. The Jets have at least 5 positions where they have a real need and another 3 where they should be looking ahead a year or two down the road. That argues strongly that the wise move is to take the best player available at each pick and then plug holes for 2014 in second-tier free agency if necessary. In 2015 the Jets will be much closer to the prize. At that point maybe you make some compromises on value vs need in the draft. In 2016 if the Jets have played their cards right they will be the hot franchise looking like they are going to win a trophy. That's when you sell out for the year and go get your Percy Harvin or Vontae Davis if you still need him. That's how you build a winner. Reaching for people in this draft just makes 2015 and 2016 worse and with no guarantees that you have made 2014 any better.
I must be in the minority with Martavis Bryant on two different things. 1. I think he gets drafted day 2. 2. People who aren't sold on him, have you watched him? For a guy his size he does a lot of things that would be considered rare. His burst off the line id incredibly quick. He knows how to use his size and pinpoint the ball. He can beat guys deep. Yes, he would be a huge RZ target but I see great things for Bryant's future. As far as the rest of the draft I like it. Cooks and Roberson would be great. I love the 4th round. Skov and Tripp have tremendous upside, already spoke on Bryant. I also like the Duncan pick. He came from a D2 school I believe but I love what I saw from him. If I'm not mistaken he had a 1000+ yard receiving season. Ladler is a great pick as well. Polished safety, would be a steal in the 6th.
They will take a RB much sooner than the 6th round if rumors can be believed and they missed out on Rashad Jennings because of Idzik's inflexibility.
I don't even know if you're referring to my mock. All of my Picks were pretty much BPA, with a common sense approach on need. None of the players I drafted were reaches or overvalued. I'm one of the few in this forum that believes strongly on BPA, so you're preaching to the choir. It's funny, you talk a good game in generalities in this post, but nothing on specific players. I didn't reach for a TE or Safety which can be claimed as a fairly significant need. Marcus Roberson was one of my BPA at #49 and as I mentioned trumps the need for a TE...common sense approach. If the Jets don't address the CB position with a trade, it ain't happening in FA cause that ship sailed, it needs to be addressed early in the draft. That is the common sense apprach if you balance it with BPA.
Brandon Cooks is a reach at 18. Marcus Roberson is a risk or a reach at 49 depending on how you look at it. Both are strong positional needs and picks that you would not make if the Jets did not have a need at the position. I like Cooks a lot but there's a real chance he's going to be a slot receiver in the NFL. He could be a flanker also and maybe even a split end but if he can't handle press coverage he's going to be in the slot.
thats why many of us are up in arms so to say with the free agency strategy. its a fine line between spending like a drunken sailor, spending smart, or seriously lagging behind in tactic and aggressiveness. quite frankly i would have been more comfortable with a splurge in spending at 1 position such as corner or safety - which would allow us to address those other positions u mention. i prefer staying away from the 2nd and 3rd tier in free agency - u might as well sign ur own guy if possible cause it usually isnt a talent upgrade.
Cooks and Roberson are not reaches. Cooks has had a significant rise on most NFL boards. I've been very high on Cooks long before the Combine and pro days. Roberson isn't a reach, he's been injured and when healthy has shown he's a rd 1 CB talent. The injuries will hold Roberson into Rd 2, but no question he's got the ability to be a special NFL player. Cooks is dynamic player that is very physical for his size. Pound for pound Cooks is one of the strongest WRs in this draft. Cooks has demonstrated he can play inside or outside. Cooks can be used in so many ways and compliments the WCO offense, turning short throws into huge Y.A.C. plays with his quickness. Cooks streches the field and is a playmaker the Jets have lacked for many years.
WW - awesome as usual - if i had to nitpick i would shoot for the TE at 18 (ebron) - the presence of his talent at TE, IMO, would slightly trump the presence of cooks on the field considering the QB we have and the type of offense..... CB - now is a major need and u have to take one within the 1st 3 rounds. IMO a direct result of the frugal tactics of the GM. love the tripp and bryant picks. love em.
I would draft Ebron over Cooks.....no question. I know Ebron had a questionable pro day yesterday, but it's probably not enough to drop him to #18. It's funny to see so many Jet fans wanting a TE in Rd 1. Ebron is a special player, his occasional lack of concentration (drops) is something you will have to live with, but his positives far out weigh his one concern. You're not reaching for a CB in rd 2, if the player aligns with your draft board and Roberson is right in the proper value in mid rd 2. Some people need to realize you can coordinate BPA and need at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive all the time. Appreciate the comments.
How's Skov's ability to cover? We desperately need someone that can go side-line to side-line. I like the mock draft, but it kind of irks me that we don't look to draft a Free Safety until the 6th round. I think it's more important than CB and the level of talent dips off in regards to safeties.
I don't like to be critical of other people's mocks because I never post my own, mostly out of fear of people who don't post their own mocks being critical of mine. That being said I like about half of these picks and one of those is the punter. I don't know if it really addresses need or BPA. So, for the record, I really hope our draft doesn't shake out this way. Just saying.
You really believe we need a S more than a CB.?? Our glaring weakness is CB, that wasn't addressed in FA. It will be addressed in the draft or a trade before the draft. Skov is an incredibale LB, sideline to sideline and great run stuffer, he won't be asked to cover in the passing game. Harris has never excelled in pass coverage., not his game. Harris days are numbered as a Jet, one more year, maybe 2.
Please post your Mock, I enjoy looking at other 's POVs. I'm sorry we agree to disagree, I hit the needs of a lot positions based on BPA & need. I didn't reach for one single player, so BPA was significant in my draft. WRs, CB, OLB, OL (depth, plays OT & G) ILB (BPA & Harris' age) TE, S ,RB (dynnamic spped back) ....all needs.
Wait, what? This is the first time I'm hearing that the Jets were even remotely interested in Rashad Jennings.
I think the strong safety spot is locked up, but the Free Safety position looks awful. We need a communicator out there on defense that is good in coverage. I like Ed Reynolds in the 3rd or 4th because while he's not extremely athletic, he's a disciplined player that can read coverage and tackle. He's faster in football pads. I think the Jets can address the CB position later in the draft (one of the 4th rounders at least and a later pick). Specifically Ross Cockrell and Walt Aikens. Physical corner-backs with potential. Skov sounds like an intriguing prospect, I hope we draft him.
No, disagree. Milliner & ? ( late rounder isn't going to get it done). Cockrell & Aikens are players I like , but not to start next to a 2nd year player in Milliner. I'm in favor of your scenario if the Jets trade for a Vet CB , like we made a trade for a vet RB (Ivory) before the draft last year I agree we need a S, but our depth at Safety (JJ, JB, AA) is stronger than CB, plus the CB position is more critical...as Rex says "two positions make you lose games quicker...QB & CB"....which is very true.
