Since we see how Douglas drafted, the cost of Deandre Hopkins would have been: Le’veon Bell Denzil Mims Cameron Clark or James Morgan
Not that simple really. Bell costs $2.5 million more this year. He’s also a totally different type of runner. You’re making the assumption that O’Brien would have wanted Bell at that price, or even at all. Throw in the fact that Arizona’s 2nd round pick was 8 picks higher than the Jets. It may have cost more to get Hopkins than what you have listed.
Absolutely not. Unless an elite QB in his prime is available, no player is worth all of that on this roster. No one player is going to make this team win, especially not one WR
Of course, this would have been as much a no brainer as the Cards deal. Shame JD couldn’t take advantage of BOB like Keim did.
No of course not. No one in their right mind would. But that’s also the risk in a trade like this. You have no idea who you are going to be able to select in the second round when you trade the pick. Before the draft? I’d have said maybe but probably not because I believe Bell is way better than Johnson and we need to hit on draft picks to get and sustain success. After the draft, most definitely not. That being said, I still think it was a great trade for the Cards.
you guys drunk? of course you take that trade. But Houston wouldn't have done that deal.... I don't think anyway
No Hopkins is already 28. No, you don't, not for a 28 year-old WR. This isn't a team ready to compete for the SB and one WR away. This team still has a number of holes. It should be a lot better than it was, but giving up all that draft capital for one player for rebuilding team would be dumb.
that's asinine. Listen to yourself. Hopkins is 28 not 38. 28 is his prime. He also may very well be the best receiver in the whole league. A gift for Sam Darnold When Houston made that trade with Arizona everyone in the world agreed the Cardinals got a steal, one of the biggest steals ever perhaps. Here a poster suggests the same deal for the Jets, and you don't want to do it? What in the heck, ya'll are crazy
I've been saying for years that Hopkins is the best all around receiver in the game. I think the Cards absolutely made a great trade. But two things... first off not everything is equal. You can't just swap DJ for Bell and pretend it's the same thing. It's not at all. The contract, the money owed, the fit. The Texans may have never been interested and honestly, Bell when used correctly is lightyears better than DJ. Second... hindsight is always a son of a bitch. We know that we now have Mims and Clark. Right now I'd say no, the day the deal was made I'd probably say that's steep, but yes.
It’s mind boggling that anyone wouldn’t make the same trade that Arizona is getting universally praised for making themselves. It sure would suck to have a top 3 WR in his prime right now.
"Same trade" is not a real thing. We can't make the same trade. And before the trade is made you have no idea that a WR a lot of people thought would be a first rounder would end up falling to you in the late second after you trade back and get more picks. And for like the millionth time you can't just swap DJ for Bell and call it a day.
Trust me it’s not hard to understand, 29 other GMs are likely kicking themselves for not taking advantage of BOB like Keim did.
This is about responding to the OP's original question. If you're just taking the question at face value then it is a definite FUCK YES you make that trade every day of the week. You always take a HOF WR squarely in his prime for a bag of unknowns and has beens. Bell looks like he'll never be what he was again (hopefully that's not the case but we'll know this year). Mims is a complete unknown and the other guys are worth very little at this stage. That's a Win Win for the Jets to get a player like that who can greatly accelerate Sam's progression.
I'm not for trading away picks but people are crazy to not want DeAndre Hopkins for that collection of players/picks. Bell will be cut at the end of the year and also has a massive price tag anyways. At the time the trade was made we could've made more of an effort to add another back as well. You take Hopkins and give Darnold his first NFL receiver all day every day.
Hopkins is the more modern day Larry Fitzgerald. Even if he doesn't last as long he has the same skill set. Big, strong and has a skill set that doesn't solely rely on speed and he also has a massive catch radius. This isn't some speed demon whose game drops off if he loses a bit of quickness. He's coming off 3x All-Pro seasons and people don't want him for a price tag that's much less than Stefon Diggs? Damn.
Whether it was a 2nd & 4th pre draft or Mims and Clark/Morgan post draft doesn’t matter. It’s a no brainer to get a top WR for that cheap. It’s completely silly that anyone would say no to that deal.
