He did a below-average job for us. W/ the Rams couldn't get one of the fastest players on the field the football enough. His NFL dreams are pretty much over.
had no QBs in SL, did a pretty good job there. Did a good job for us despite constant turnover at QB. Not a coincidence that we started going downhill when we let him go.
Hiring Sparano instead of Haley outright was the down-fall, Chasing Nnamdi when we had other needs was the down-fall. The Holmes contract, Wayne Hunter. None had anything to do with Schottenheimer. Schotty sucks.
the QB started to trend downward when he left. it was more than just Brian leaving but that was the first domino in getting us to 4-12 in 2014.
I disagree. If the Jets hire Haley outright, the offense would have been a clear upgrade in regards to coaching. Brian leaving had nothing to do with the downward trend, but the acquisitions and the off-season planning.
Always seemed like he was more suited to the college game.. getting all buddy/buddy with the young players like he did. This is a step down for him and a significantly different path. Just a few years ago he was a candidate for HC jobs in the NFL.. now he put himself in the position where he will be a candidate for lower level college HC jobs.
How many years was Schottenheimer with the NYJs and showed no improvement? Exactly. There wasn't always a bunch of talent on Pitts O, it took time to accumulate that talent. Now they have Brown, Bell and Bryant along with Miller. We had talent and we still barely put up points. We went weeks w/out an offensive TD. He's got a good offensive philosophy and has added yrs to Big Ben's career.
he walked into a very talented O w/ a HOF QB. 2012 they had Wallace, Brown and Sanders- must have been rough. things happened here. he never had anything close to Pitt talent here and had new QBs almost every year. 2006: Chad was coming off his 2nd rotator cuff surgery 2007: Clemens started most games 2008: got Favre a month before season and Favre didn't want to be here 2009: rookie Mark One time in 6 years did we go back to back weeks w/o an offensive TD. 2010 at NE 45-3 L 2010 vs. Miami 10-6 L and in that Miami game Holmes dropped a wide open TD which I am sure was the OC's fault.
Wallace, and Sanders eventually left the team - and the offense got stronger with each season under Haley despite the talent leaving the team - they replaced Wallace and Sanders with no issue. The Steelers offensive this season was one of the best I've seen the Steelers have in recent memory. In 2010, I think he had VERY SOLID talent, but we still went QTRs w/out scoring an offensive TD. We can make excuses all we want about injuries, they are part of the game. He failed to development Clemens (who sucked anyway - but had some promising tools). He still had Chad throwing crazy 10 yard out-routes and you know Chad can't make those throws, so as an OC you have to adjust and for that Schotty failed.
Maybe he'll get a HC gig at the FCS level one day. Don't know what Richt was thinking hiring this guy.
it got stronger b/c they had a HOF QB and kept bringing in more talent even while losing good guys. 2010 Holmes missed first qtr of season, Cotch missed games and played hurt. LT was great 1st month but was awful rest of season. you think any QB can be developed? what success has Haley had w/o already developed QBs? what QBs has he helped develop? Clemens is not a starting QB in this league.
Talent acquisition is not on Schottenheimer. So at the end of the day, the downfall does not lie within Schottenheimer. 2010, Braylon / Keller / Cotchery / Good running game is sufficient enough to put up points. We put up points against the Pats, Dolphins, and Bills (after the Ravens game in 2010) - Mark was throwing TDs like he was raining 1s in the strip club earlier that yr. Why wasn't the offensive production sustainable? That is on the coordinator. Not any QB can be developed - Haley has had success in this league that's all that matters. Maybe he does a better job with Sanchez then Sparano.
Congrats to Schotty. Probably a better fit at the college level. It allows him to pursue his dream of being a Head Coach. No hard feelings and no reason to debate the job he did here as it no longer has relevence.
again, Holmes missed 4 games, Cotch was hurt a god portion of year and run game was inconsistent. There are many reasons we had a bad stretch(and that's really all it was Cincy through Miami). One is the QB, he was not playing well and you know how I feel about the QB. we were 13th in pts scored so it wasn't a bad season offensively. I would rather have had Haley than Sparano obviously but would it have mattered much w/ Schilens, Gates and Hill to throw to?
Cotchery got hurt weeks later. Holmes being suspended played a role, however the offense was able to generate points earlier in the season against divisional foes. Jets offense was unable to sustain that level of productivity at the end of the day - that's on the coordinator. You have to put players in a position to succeed and Schottenheimer did not do so. Schottenheimer leaving was not the primary reason for the downfall.
They had a couple of bad games offensively as most teams do but they were pretty consistent scoring over 20 pts as a team. 12 of 16 games scored more than 20 6 of the 12 games happened in 2nd half of season this wasn't the '95 Jets.
Never called us the 95 Jets. I'm saying we could have done better with play-calling and execution. Schottenheimer wasn't the reason for the Jets down-fall. Not even close.
