With the 10th pick..

Discussion in 'Draft' started by KY Jets Fan, Jan 7, 2024.

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Who do you pick if all these are still available at Pick#10

  1. Rome Odunze (WR)

    30.2%
  2. Brock Bowers (TE)

    17.5%
  3. Fashanu or another OL

    41.3%
  4. I rather trade down if these are my choices

    11.1%
  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    That's the point. There was no greater talent at LT than Tyron Smith, and while there may have been someone a little better than Moses, he was probably a lot more expensive than Moses and Moses is very good. Smith and Moses aren't scrubs. It remains to be seen regarding Simpson.
     
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  2. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    As draft day comes near, I see more and more the same players in all the draft mocks for the first five picks, maybe reversing the QB in picks 2 and 3 but that is it. To me the first chance of a surprise to alter the board is with the Giants. Every soul has them picking a WR, specifically Nabers, while the Titans are sitting smug waiting to pick Alt. But what if the Giants go on a different direction, like grabbing Alt or even a QB. Then the rumor is that the Titans will try to trade down, and if they do the dominoes might fall in a different direction. The team that trades with the Titans must be targeting a QB, so now the Jets at ten might be faced potentially with at least two top receiving prospects, with a small chance of a third, Nabers, if the Bears don’t grab him at 9, but for sure Odunze and Bowers, or even trade down and still get a solid OL. I have a strong feeling that while JD wants to beef up the OL, he is not of the mind set to shot the first rounder pick in that direction unless he trades down.
     
  3. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    I kind of feel the same about what JD will do

    Being that he’s on thin ice this year, and needs to win, and seeing that he signed two starting tackles (though injury risk is real), I also believe that if he stays at 10, he’d go some kind of playmaker…to me, that’s whomever he thinks best between whatever WR is on the board vs. Bowers (every mock I’ve seen shows Bowers available at 10). If I were to guess what JD does, I think he goes BPA between WR/Bowers. Second option I think would be to trade down and then take BPA among WR/OT/Bowers (if he’s still there depending on how far down we go).

    I don’t think he’s staying at 10 and taking a tackle unless by some chance Alt drops.

    Not saying that’s what I would want to do, but that is what I think JD will do…
     
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  4. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    In a 'must win' season JD probably drafts a guy who could make an immediate impact. Several offensive playmakers fit the bill so that's probably the direction he goes at 10. Unless Alt is available which is unlikely.
     
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  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    This is where I am.

    Alt is the guy you make the exception for if you're all-in, otherwise it's a player that can directly account for yards and points while Aaron Rodgers is on the field. And it's just too early for a back. There's a few I'd take in the third though.
     
  6. Kronoking

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    I mean it was a quick mental typo at the very end of a paragraph. Not like i haven't spent a lot of time arguing about ACL recovery projections lately as well. I mean contrary to his claim had I also known he was going to rage out to that type of extent and read the ridiculous amount he did into it (kinda as a means to ignore everything else imo) I'd also of never engaged him in the first place. I don't actually enjoy seeing people get that triggered over debate while realizing there is actually a real person behind that screen. It was right right about one thing though. I definitely am not anywhere near as invested in Aaron Rodgers (he's not "the team" btw) as he appeared to be. I'm also nowhere near as optimistic on his future contribution level here as I am on Breece's, and why picking OL at 10 still makes all the more sense imo. But that is hardly a secret at this point.

    Nobody on this board was vocally beating the sign Tyron Smith drum harder then i was day 1 of free agency. Honestly though if you told me then that doing that would guarantee we don't take a OL pick at #10, I'd of ultimately have preferred we didn't do it. I'd have preferred to leave this draft feeling good we actually had locked in a long term build solution at LT. Tyron, as much as I like his upside potential, just isn't a good bet to be that imo.
     
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    I think Schrager's call on the Giants trade up just to grab JJ is way off. Since that probably just puts Dabol's future even more in doubt.

    Reaching to bring in the leftover choice QB into a completely barren and super high probability to fail situation probably just digs the hole deeper imo.
     
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    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    He’s from Washington state so he has dealt with weather conditions.

    Pro’s- strength to out muscle defenders, thick frame, ability to high point, strong hands, tough, red zone threat, plays all over the field and has a dog mentality.

    Con’s- Needs to work on polishing his route running, it’s not bad by any means just needs to be more crisp/polished. Speed in and out of breaks which will come with more polished routes.

    If he could learn to run routes like Cooper Kupp with all his other skills he could be the best receiver in the draft.
     
  10. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    His odds on sportsbooks is the highest chance of him being a Jet. I didn't really check out his mock from last year with the misses, but the fact that his final mock nailed every Jets pick for the last 4 years and then had a different edge instead of WMD is pretty telling. He is obviously well sourced within that building.
     
  11. dmw

    dmw Well-Known Member

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    If the Jets draft Bowers, do they trade Ruckert?
     
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    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    They're both TEs, but very different styles. I'm thinking of Bowers as more versatile and more of a hybrid player than just a TE. There would be roles for both Ruckert and Bowers.
     
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    dmw Well-Known Member

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    But can they carry 3 tight-ends?
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    They did with Conklin Uzamah and Ruckert
     
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    dmw Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Both starting OTs are really good, but also old and injury prone and on short-term contracts. It's REALLY HARD to get good OT talent and the Jets have an opportunity in this draft. In my opinion, they shouldn't pass up that opportunity.
     
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    dmw Well-Known Member

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    True, but all 3 will deserve significant playing time.
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    What has Ruckert shown to actually deserve playing time? He's a fine blocker I guess. They could use him as an HBACK type where I think he would actually be fine. Cannot believe they kept Bowden over just using Ruckert there.

    Bowers also doesn't have to be a TE. He can play as a big slot in 11 personnel where Conklin is the inline TE. I guess that would just make it 12 and Bowers is lined up outwide.
     
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    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    I think you can get all 3 significant playing time honestly. I imagine Bowers lining up in the slot, out wide, in-line and even the backfield. Ruckert is more of an in-line TE IMO.

    And not for nothing, but Ruckert wasn't great last year either. He's shown some good things and I expect a leap in year three, but he's not a surefire starter
     
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  19. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    This is pretty simple folks:

    If the Jets take Bowers, their OL will get hurt and the season will be ruined.

    If the Jets don’t take Bowers, he will be the next Travis Kelce.

    That’s Jets Football!
     
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  20. BacktoQueens

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    The pick has to be OL imo.
    Im still leaning Fuaga for his versatility.
    The entire season depends on keeping Rodgers upright and allowing Hall to finally have that massive breakout season we all feel is coming. With the injury history we have across the OL, this pick will see significant time at either G or T, and maybe both.
    The talent in the draft also lines up perfectly for a high quality OL pick.

    But this pick is more about the future then present, as good drafting should be.
    keeping Rodgers upright, he may play another year.
    If he doesn’t play another year, we cannot head into 2025 without a starting QB or any starting OTs. That would be horrible team construction and planning.

    In terms of Bowers, that is a hard pass for me.
    He may succeed on another team with stability at QB and OC, who can find creative ways to find a player with no true position the mismatches he can exploit.
    But with Hackett at OC, and potentially no QB or OTs on the roster beyond this year, what would be effectiveness of that type of player?
    Hybrid or tweener “TEs” picked in the top 15 never work out. It’s usually because bad teams are picking there, without the stability or creativity to make something like that work.

    Side note, if we trade back in draft, I like the big Samoan out of BYU (I’m not trying to spell his name). May need some development work, but lots of Penei Sewell comparisons and upside.
     

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