With no deal, Chargers withdraw offer to first-rounder Bosa

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  1. jixxjr

    jixxjr Well-Known Member

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    With no deal, Chargers withdraw offer to first-rounder Bosa



    By BERNIE WILSON, AP
    Wed Aug 24, 9:50 PM UTC

    SAN DIEGO (AP) — Joey Bosa's holdout turned ugly Wednesday when the San Diego Chargers pulled their contract offer to the first-round draft pick and said they'll restructure a new deal that would reflect him playing less than a full season.

    Bosa has missed all of training camp as his agents and the team wrangle over how much of his $17 million signing bonus he'll get up front, as well as offset language in the case he gets cut.

    The Chargers were counting on the former Ohio State star to help bolster their pass rush and bring some excitement to a season that could be pivotal to their future in San Diego.

    It's not clear whether Bosa is willing to sit out the season. Also unclear is how the situation could affect the Chargers' push for $1.1 billion in a public subsidy for a new downtown stadium, which could be their last chance at remaining in San Diego.

    At the very least, the team is willing to continue to play hardball with Bosa.

    The Chargers said in a statement that they gave Bosa's agents their best offer on Tuesday night, and it was rejected Wednesday.

    "The offer that we extended was for Joey to contribute during all 16 games and beyond," the team said. "Joey's ability to contribute for an entire rookie season has now been jeopardized by the valuable time he has missed with his coaches and his teammates. Since Joey will not report at this time, his ability to produce not just early in the season, but throughout the entire season, has been negatively impacted."

    Bosa is the only first-rounder who has not signed with his team.

    San Diego said it offered an initial signing bonus payment larger than any draftee received in the past two drafts, and more money in 2016 than any draftee except Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz.

    One of Bosa's agents at CAA Sports, Tom Condon, has sparred plenty with the Chargers over the years. He represented Eli Manning, whose family didn't want the Chargers to take him with the No. 1 pick overall in 2004. San Diego took him anyway, and then traded him to the New York Giants for Philip Rivers. Condon also represented Drew Brees, LaDainian Tomlinson and Marty Schottenheimer, all of whom had unhappy departures from the team.

    The rhetoric accelerated earlier this month when Cheryl Bosa, Joey's mother, posted a remark toward the Chargers on Facebook. In a reply to someone frustrated by the impasse, she wrote: "It bums me out for him so much. Wish we pulled an Eli Manning on draft day."

    Bosa's father, John, is a former first-round draft pick of the Miami Dolphins.

    The Chargers' statement on Bosa came just 30 minutes after they released an economic study that shows a combined downtown stadium and an off-site expansion to the city's convention center will result in a "significant positive impact" on San Diego's convention and hotel industry. The Chargers will ask voters on Nov. 8 to approve a 4 percent increase in the hotel tax to help pay for the $1.8 billion project.

    Three other studies have been released showing that the benefits of the project won't match its cost.

    The Chargers already face an uphill fight. The measure must receive two-thirds of the vote to pass, a number considered impossible to obtain in San Diego.

    The team has recently started attacking City Councilman Chris Cate, who said that while he wants the Chargers to stay, he's opposed to the downtown stadium plan. Mayor Kevin Faulconer has remained silent on the Chargers' downtown plans. Faulconer wanted the Chargers to build a new stadium at the site of aging Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley.

    The Chargers spent most of 2015 working with the rival Oakland Raiders on a plan to build a stadium in Carson, a Los Angeles suburb. NFL owners rejected that plan in January, choosing instead a plan that allowed the Rams to move to Los Angeles and build a stadium in Inglewood set to open in 2019.

    The league gave the Chargers the right to join the Rams in that stadium. The Chargers have until Jan. 15 to decide on relocation.

    Also Wednesday, the Chargers said defensive end Damion Square has been suspended four games without pay for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy.

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  2. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    If he is in the 2017 draft is he still a first rounder?
     
  3. Passepartout

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    Really Bosa brought this on himself! Such arrogance and insubordination.
     
  4. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    The big difference between the Fitz saga and the dumpster fire in SD is that Fitz and Jets were sensible and got the deal done when they had to. Apparently Bosa and the Chargers are not.
     
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  5. The Waterboy

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    Like father, like son. He'll probably flame out like his dad did also.
     
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    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    I always find its better to negotiate hard on the second contract. Y'know, after you've fucking proved something in your career.
     
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  7. TNJet

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    I just hope to god we don't add another Ohio St. bust to our team.
     
  8. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I thought there wasn't even much to negotiate anymore with the rookie cap. How could this possibly happen.
     
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  9. NYJetsO12

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    This is his mothers fault. She and his family want the vault to open and more....

    Go prove yourself first kid smh
     
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    Chargers franchise is shit, sell the team

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  11. zace

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    I think it's over when the guaranteed money pays.

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  12. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Yes that's what the article says. It just seems like an insane thing to go this far with in negotiations.
     
  13. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    This kid is the stereotype of his entitlement generation. As several have said here, go earn your damn paycheck before acting like you got leverage when you have not played one real NFL game yet.
     
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    That's the problem. Bosa's worried, more than others for some reason, that he will flame out like his dad and wants to ensure he gets all the guaranteed money he can up front. To me that's a loser's mentality. I dont usually fault players for trying to get paid but in this instance, the no.3 overall player is trying to make sure he gets money early in case he busts. I'm sorry but thats a loser's mentality.

    A winner wouldn't be worried about when the guaranteed money kicks in, he would be wanting to hit FA earlier because he knows he will get the mega contract at that point.

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    Its a separate discussion but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these Urban Meyer Ohio State players are on the steroids. Meyer is shady and Bosa and the contract negotiations would fit the profile of a player who knows he's fools gold because he juiced.
     
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  15. The Waterboy

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    But either way the signing bonus is guaranteed, about the only thing he misses getting is the interest on it which for someone like you or me would be a nice chunk but for someone with millions that $200K or so in interest is not worth it if you just lost $1M by not taking the current contract offered. Just pure stupidity.
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 2018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Every player drafted 1-20 not counting Bosa got every year of their contract guaranteed. Seems like San Diego either wants to be special or doesn't think much of Mr. Bosa.
     
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  17. The Waterboy

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    I was somewhat leaning toward the team side until I read a little further. Looks like Bosa said he would either give in on the deferred money or offset language but not both, San Diego would not budge on either.

    Didn't understand where S.D. was coming from with this statement either, "It’s absolutely asinine. He would have gotten more cash in this calendar year than anyone except Carson Wentz.". Well he was the number 3 pick, I would absolutely expect him to get more than all the other picks except 2. That Goff decided he wasn't too worried about when his deferred money is paid doesn't mean all that much in the Bosa issue.
     
  18. donkey

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    Sign this beast. Have I got it right?
     
  19. pdxdrew

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    Yeah. Why the hell does a top 3 pick ask for a contact without offset language?! The balls on this kid. The league only made 14 billion dollars last year. Earn your stripes kid! You got so many years to play the game....
     
  20. GordonGecko

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    Has nothing to do with anything, the compensation was already agreed upon so he wasn't claiming he was worth more or anything like that. The Chargers are just so cheap that they wanted to keep his signing bonus a few more months to get the interest on it.

    Bosa's agent already hates the Chargers for being a second class organization so he was going to put the screws to them if they weren't 100% by the book in terms of how contracts are executed. Chargers just couldn't get over themselves and they could easily lose this pick if Bosa sits out the year which he might. Bosa's big mistale was not playing hardball sooner when a trade was possible
     

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