Alright I just need to clear this up for myself, and I'm sure some other people here gotta be wondering. I've seen alot of posts saying what the Jets should do for next season and years to come. Some people say they want to rebuild so they can win this upcoming season. Some say the want to build a team for the future, most likely at the sacrifice of this year. What do you want, to make moves that will get us to win this year, or to take the route of building a team for more than one season at the expence of the upcoming one. What would be an acceptible record for this upcoming season, for sake of discussion?
A 6-10 record to 8-8 would be nice or a very strong finish, anything lower and I am questioning if Mangini is making progress
I see what you are saying however understand that our offense will be totally new, very young and could be in shambles. I see a 6-10 record as very succesful. Another 4-12 could actually be an improvement. I wouldnt be surprised to see us start 0-5 as we are breaking in many new players. Plus we will need a new pass-rusher and that could be a rookie. Basically we could go 0-16 or 16-0(Probably none) but depending on how we improve and depending how the young guys play, or how our staff makes decisions will determine how I feel. Really I see 5-11 to 6-10 but I have to watch and see before I react to Mangini.
That is why I said finish strong, however if he is making the same rookie mistakes from day one to the end of the year and we are showing no signs of improvement I am not going to have blind hope for the guy.
I agree with you, I do see a lot of frustrating mistakes early on, because we have a very inexperienced coaching staff, it should hopefully get better though.
As a Jets and Islanders fan who has been promised "the future" for decades and seen absolutely nothing to show for it, I cannot stress this point enough: "The Future" is totally abstract. You can't accept losing because you could theoretically get a draft pick who might turn into a great player and potentially lead you to glory in 5-10 years. There's no telling what can go wrong in that time. Especially in a league like the NFL where there is more parity than I could ever think imaginable in a professional league, you can't accept losing just to cross your fingers and hope that a teenager is going to develop into a star player. Any team can win a game on any given Sunday and I don't care how bad our salary cap situation is, any team can go out there and work hard enough to win games. I'm not sitting here saying that the Jets should win the Super Bowl next year but I'm certainly not going to accept the Front Office giving away our chance at it on the development of a bunch of college players.
Winning "now" isn't even a possibility for the Jets, so why not start rebuilding? If the Jets started all the vets, the best expectations would border on .500...and that's being optimistic. I say rebuild for the next season, then hope for a playoff push shortly after.
jetsaholic is right. There is no 'win now' for the Jets. We have no true answer at starting QB anymore.
Im in the middle on this one and either way would be fine for me. If we finish 8-8 next season ill be happy because it will show some good progress and improvement.
There is a "win now" for the Jets. Just look over the past few years at teams that have come back from the dead with seemingly mediocre rosters to compete. I'm not saying that they should sacrifice the future to aquire veterans now, but they should do everything humanly possible to put a winning product on the field this year.
Soem of you guys need to get your mind out of the 80's. There is no rebuilding anymore. Teams routinely go from awful to contender in the span of a year. Remember that ungodly amount of injuries the team had last year. If the QB position can be settled and the Jets can get production from 2nd year players and rookies, then the playoffs are a very good possibility. You can't play for the future, the future is NOW. I gurantee you that Mangini expects to challenge for a playoff spot this year.
This team is not good enough to expect 8-8 and call it progress. This team next season will be lucky to win 6 games... and if they do, I'll give Mangini lots of credit. Especially if he has good time management.
win now without putting the future in jeopardy. rebuilding has never and will probably never work... how many times as the jets tried rebuilding and how many Superbowl have they won ? teams that wins the superbowl is always a surprise and a team no one really expects. SO NO TO REBUILDING, IT WILL NOT WORK OUT FOR THE JETS, IT WILL JUST ADD ON MORE YEARS FOR THE JETS NOT WINNING THE SUPERBOWL. its like you guys are all saying that if they rebuild now, they will win a superbowl or get far in the playoffs in a few years... just put the best team possible every year without putting future is jeopardy. AND ITS SAD THAT ALL YOUR "JET FANS" ARE SAYING THE JETS ARE GOING TO HAVE A BAD SEASON AND WILL BE LUCKY JUST TO GET A FEW WINS EVEN WHEN THE OFFSEASON JUST STARTED.
We have no choice but to rebuild. Our team is still 15 million over the cap. How can you say rebuilding doesn't work? What did Parcells do when he came in? He stripped down the team, keeping the players who he liked and bringing in other players he liked. What you have to do to build a successfull team is to trim out all the players who don't fit in, and replace them with the players who will help you win. It has worked over and over again in the NFL. Pats, Cowboys, 49ers, etc all started out by basically starting from scratch and building a team from the ground up.
Well the future could just mean tomarro. Either way it's the future... But if your asking if we should rebuild i say yes we have to. Draft a qb, draft oline for the rest of the draft. Pick up a couple vets at certain positions, preferably qb.
