There's no doubt about it--this year is going to be brutal. With no fans as it is and a controversial political climate the NFL was already going to get hit, now enter our team who is void of star players to keep people engaged, a terrible out of touch HC and a clueless owner. This mix is going to result in an absolute brutal year. But don't lose hope and remember a few items: -Not hitting rock bottom keep mediocre coaches around longer than they should be (see guys like Marvin Lewis, Jason Garret, Bowles etc.) -Not hitting rock bottom results in settling for draft talent sometimes and not getting a franchise changing guy (see when 49ers drafted Bosa and we got stuck with Big Baby) -Not hitting rock bottom doesn't quite wake ownership up to problems in their organization I have said this before and have taken heat, perhaps because we are a bunch of Jets fans, but this team hasn't yet seen true rock bottom to this point---we have hovered around that bad-mediocre mark. Which is truly the worst. Right before my time, was Rich Kotite, which I only heard about. But it sounded like that was the last time we were considered the WORST team in football. But after that, we made one of the best hires in our history--Bill Parcells. If this past weekend is going to be our story this season, we may have truly hit the bottom. Which could be taken as good news.
Yes, it often requires hitting rock bottom before you make the real changes you need to make that you would never do if there were any other option, even a bad option. But rooting for someone to become even worse than they already are is more than most people are capable of. Simply watching it is more than most people can bear, which is how people become enablers, trying to "save" the doomed even though they can't. So pardon me if I withdraw from actively watching games and reading the sports columns about the unfolding and inevitable train wreck the Jets are. They are as predictable as a drunk puking in the gutter after last call night after night.
Next year we will have a good HC and a first round QB to develop. Everything will be looking up. Which is a good thing, because you've never heard that one before. In reality we welcome new HC Freddie Kitchens, draft a safety and DT in the first round, and start Joe Flacco at QB.
I'd normally agree with you but.... We haven't had a winning season since 2015. We're about to complete a decade without a playoff appearances. We've finished higher than 22nd on offense once since 2011. We've had 2 1,000 yard receivers since 2008 (both in 2015). We've had 3 1,000 yard rushers this decade (Ivory, Greene - 2x) and none of them eclipsed 1,100 yards. The only two players on the roster that have been to the Pro Bowl are Bell, who has turned into hot garbage and 67 year old Frank Gore. We've had a bottom 6 offense for four straight years. We've been at rock bottom for a decade. This isn't really a new development unfortunately.
The only thing these idiots understand is rock bottom.No false hope.No bright spots.Absolutely no outs that allow them to kick the can down the road & force us into yet another yr of misery
What in god's name makes you think rock bottom will mean anything? We drafted a young QB early in 2009 knowing he needed development... we tossed him out there week 1 and he kept his head above water for two years and then we slowly destroyed him. We tried again with Geno but he never had a shot. Now we are in our third QB drafted in the first two rounds in less than a decade and we are very clearly destroying him because we hired a terrible coach and gave him nothing to work with. Why would it change this time around?
Rock bottom guarantees nothing. There's no cosmic law that says once you hit rock bottom a team automatically bounces back up. Some teams stay there for a very long time.
We've been bad enough to get the 3rd pick in the 2019 draft, the 6th pick in the 2018 draft, the 6th pick in the 2017 draft. I maintain that despite getting a stud in 2017, that pick should've been utilized better.
4 years ago - they tanker for “can’t miss” QBs prospects. Forget about Trevor Lawrence, this team won’t finish dead last and then if they do, why would Trevor come out to come to this dump
The Jets act like there is a textbook how to build a winning football team out there and they're following it step by step. This year we get the o-line, next year we get the WRs. JD has it all mapped out in his head. It's possible the morons didn't think Robby was worth paying because he was a undrafted FA and their manual says a #1 wr has to come from high in the draft. Just like this stupid rule that safety isn't a premiere position as a reason for not paying Adams. Meanwhile Belichick goes out and signs Cam Newton off the scrap heap and he's 1-0. After they found Brady in round 6 in 2000. The Jets don't think outside the box and they have this obsession with building for the long term too. Ain't won close to squat since 1969 yet they turn up their nose at making a run for 4-5 years.
When you talk about the Kotite era people forget his teams were much better and more competitive than what we have seen from Gase. When we went 1 and 15 we led at the half in 10 games. We were not a bad team we just were not able to close games out. A much better comparison to the Gase Jets are the 70's Jet teams. We have not been this non-competitive so often since Lou Holtz's team. My recollection from the 70s was every week seemed like a beat down. I have not felt like that since until Adam Gase brought his brand of lifeless blowout football to our Jets. I wold much rather prefer to have Kotite as HC and go 1 and 15 but at least be able to watch games past the 1st quarter.
I've been a fan since the Joe Namath days. How many rock bottom seasons do I need to suffer with this team? It's been a roller coaster with head coaches too. Up and down for years. Do you know who the last Jets coach to have a winning percentage? Al FUCKING Groh. Albeit just one season, but it was a winning season. Since Woody Johnson purchased the team in 2000, NOT ONE COACH has a winning percentage record over .500. The owners who are football minded know how to hire head coaches. Woody is clueless.. Al Groh(n)- .563% Herm Edwards- .488% Eric Mangini- .479% Rex "Let's get a fucking snack" Ryan- .479% Todd Toilet Bowles- .375% Adam "Cocaine Eyes" Gase- .438% Since Woody has owned the team his choice of head coaches is not the greatest. I know we went to the AFC championship twice with Sexy Rexy, but he could never get them over the top. I'm not saying all the coaches were bad choices, there are other variables that led to less than ideal records. The bottom line is there is no hitting rock bottom. We have been there since 2000 and haven't really made the trek upwards. And when it looks like we are heading in the right direction, the ownership lets us down with the choices of head coaches they make to lead this team. The Johnsons are NOT football people, they are baby powder manufacturers. We need to drain the Secaucus swamp.
I don't know about rock bottom, or how close or far the Jets are from it. What I do know, is that unless yesterday's loss was a total fluke, big changes will need to be made. If the Jets continue to look like they did yesterday, they could easily be in line for the first overall pick. If thats the case, Gase is obviously fired, and Trevor Lawrence is drafted. That gives Douglas a chance to bring in a coach (or at least have input).
We finally have the formula to do this. -Hardest schedule in the league to finish with an awful record -Talent is totally gone. Adams trades. Mosley out. Some injuries too. -Coach that is due to be fired -GM can pick his coach and QB and go from there -Draft capital to build quickly around this team -FA space next year don’t screw those up and win lol
It won’t, necessarily, but I think JD’s plan is to burn things to the ground and rebuild from the ashes, which is not the same as the previous GM who came in with a “win now” mindset. I’m good with that, because the band-aid approach has proven ineffective for this franchise.
burn it down does not guarantee winning, keep that in mind and meanwhile the fans need to sit and watch this crap fest? NOPE fans will not sit quietly on the sidelines, if JD was Gases' friend he would have gotten some more talent. I am tired of watching gms fail around here, coaches fail around here taking decent players and turning them into crap
I don’t think anyone is saying we cant be pissed off watching yet another season go down the drain (if thats what ultimately happens), but you also cant tell people that they cant look at the long term. This team wasn’t a Super Bowl contender when Douglas was hired, and no short term fix was going to change that. Could he have put a more competitive team on the field this season? I think so, but I also think he recognized that it still wouldn’t have been enough to make a playoff push. He’s loading up for both the draft and free agency right now. He’ll be able to assemble the team that he wants, potentially with the coach that he wants. That’s also what I want, because we won’t know if he’s the real deal until that happens, and like it or not, he’s here for the foreseeable future.
