Why Don't We Play Action More?

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  1. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Crazy with how good Ivory is running the ball.

    We have play action passed 11% of the time which makes us currently 31st in the NFL.
     
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    SonofDinger Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Chan is saving it for the Pats :)
     
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    Bc chan probably wants fitz to make quick reads from the pistol

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  4. jetsfan32

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    Because we don't have a starting QB that can throw the ball effectively on play action passess, since the ball usually has to travels more than 20 yards.
     
  5. BrowningNagle

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    The offense has been sacked only twice total all season including 3 games (all blowout wins) in which Fitzpatrick didnt have to get dirty at all.. A big reason why is because they aren't running many slow developing plays like play action passes. Morningwood was the king of outdated playaction and the QBs were getting crushed. I like the system they are running
     
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    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    Well, we did complete a 35yd Hb screen....that took 5years to happen again.
     
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    Chan Gailey runs the shotgun a lot. It's his primary formation on passing downs. On early downs the Jets are running the ball. That doesn't leave a lot of room for play action.

    I suspect the Jets are holding the play action for use later in the season when they have established a tendency the other other team has to respect and when it will be most effective.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

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    That was the first thing that entered my mind as I read the OP's post.
     
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    Because fitz can't throw more than a thirty yard pass and has 0 touch when attempting that. It's pointless
     
  11. JerzeJets

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    4-1
     
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  12. Jonathan_Vilma

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    One reason would be that we are a quick passing offense that is predicated on short drops and short passes so the quarterback has less thinking to do on each given play since he had the tendency to turn into a gunslinging interception machine if given the chance.

    The other underrated part of this is that they don't want Fitz turning his back to the defense. They've been showing a play all week on ESPN where Palmer does it and the defense was in a cover 1 high look disguised as a cover 2. 7 step drops with deep play action disallow the quarterback to adjust if he read the defense wrong presnap and realized it during the play.
     
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    Even when your 4-1 you still should mix things up.
     
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  14. Zach

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    1. Play action is actually pretty damn hard play to pull off as a QB. You, as a QB, literally turn your back to the defense, fake hand off, THEN turn around again, and make a decision. See where the danger comes from?

    2. The biggest danger is, obviously, the first part. The QB has to take his eyes off the defense, hoping they bite the fake. While he takes his eyes off, defense can go a myriad of ways. No defense today stays honest with the formation/alignment they start before snap anyway. If Fitz reads the defense wrong, then he's going to be in a world of hurt for sure.

    3. After he turns his sights down field. How long does he have until he unleashes the ball? Remember. He had to take his eyes off the defense for a good chunk of time, so he needs to [1] read the defense again, [2] process the info and determine what he must do with the ball and THEN [3] throw the ball. If quick-thinking is Fitzpatrick's forte, I'd rather make sure he sticks to the quick passing game instead. That way Fitzpatrick isn't exposed to the dangers I described above. Sure - he can scramble but, you don't want your QB running for his life, absorbing hits. The QB is most effective [throwing.] [And this is why all the running spread option QBs suck now.]

    4. By the nature of the play design, play action passes are for deep balls - which Fitz is ill-equipped to play.

    5. I don't think Jets OL is a good fit for stretch run plays. Zone read from shotgun is out of question.
     
  15. jerseyjay14

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    ive asked this question every game since week 1.

    ESPECIALLY when it comes to the deep balling. lining up 5 wide and throwing a 9 route on the outside isnt likely to hit very often with fitz arm... but a 2 tigh end set play action bomb is mroe liekly to yield results
     
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    Also, there is a 100% chance we runa play action pass on a fake toss after running like 9 inside toss runs last week
     
  17. Zach

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    2 TEs, eh?

    With the likes of Cumberland on the field?

    Good luck. I'd stick with best 11 instead.
     
  18. Ptflea2

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    We do...... 11% of the time :)
     
  19. juss

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    Play action requires a good QB with a good arm, who can make decisions quickly. Fitz is probably better keeping things simple.
     
  20. Footballgod214

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    Chad Pennington, the weakest arm QB we've ever had, was the best play action QB in the NFL hands down.
     

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