Every thread I'm in all I am hearing about is how we need to sign a veteran wr. I think we are pretty set at wideout and should be focusing on getting a quality 1-2 punch for running back. Our #1 is set with Holmes, like it or not. Our number two wide out is set with Hill who must get thrown in the fire. We also have depth for #2 as Turner, and Chaz are both available. Our slot is covered with kerley and white battling it out. Looks to me like there is no room for a vet wide out. The real place we need depth is at running back. Greene has always been most successful in a split role, like he had with Thomas jones and with LT in 2010 ( before he completely lost his step). Greene is also injury prone and cant carry the load. Powell has shown us nothing and is a fourth round pick who hasn't lived up to expectations. And McKnight is a gadget player at best not big enough to split carries. If we want to enforce a ground and pound we need to look at players who will be cut that can split carries with Greene. I don't think this is impossible as a lot of quality players will be out there come Friday. So enough with the wideout talk we should be talking running back!
i was thinking the jets use a 3 back system, kind of like what the giants with jacobs, bradshaw and ward. jacobs=greene, bradshaw=mcknight and ward=powell. i agree the running back position is a pressing need if they're going with the "ground n pound" game.
In reality we need an upgrade in almost every position on offense. I am a whole lot more comfortable with Greene, Powell and McKnight at RB than I am with Larry, Curly and Mo at WR but they are both below average groups by NFL standards. Throw in a mediocre QB and TE makes for an anemic offense.
The only reason I can see Tanny not upgrade the running back position is if the coaching staff said they truly plan on using Tebow ten times a game and that is considered the back that will split carries. In this case I don't see us getting a new wideout or running back unless a cant miss player gets cut and wants to play for the jets for cheap. (unlikely). However I do see us picking up a tight end that will get cut, hopefully Fasano. Here's to hoping the offense can pull it together and bail out our great defense sometimes.
We have 3 serviceable RB's, we need a WR or at least a WR/RB flex guy like a Spiller, McCluster, Forte kind of guy. Our biggest problem we have is Mark Sanchez and his inability to see the entire field, this will be our downfall on offense.
What has shown you that Powell is serviceable, he's done nothing! I mean terrible outing last year in his one chance and this preseason he hasn't done anything. That wr/rb flex guy is already on the team his name is McKnight, but he is incapable of splitting carries with Greene as I don't believe he has the size to run between the tackles consistently. Let's be real spiller was a first round pick for a reason, mccluster can't carry the load and forte is one of the best backs in football. With our defense we are not going to have cap room or luxury picks to get players like these.
Two back ups I would love to see in Green and White- Ben Tate: Trade a 4th and Powell and our RB situation is completely fixed. Can do everything... Better RB than Greene and a lot higher upside. Chris Ivory: Trade a 6th or 7th for they guy, hes buried on the depth chart and would easily be good enough to share carries with Greene. He's a true power back (unlike Greene). Other possible additions- James Starks if he gets cut would be nice.
Ben Tate was a 2nd round pick two years ago, and his rookie season he spent on IR. Last year he exploded on the scene, why the hell would Houston trade him for two bags of peanuts and a beer? Don't get me wrong, I would do the deal in a heartbeat, but they can get far more for Tate if they even wanted to move him.
Tebow is basically a runningback. Not sure how he is catching the ball, but he can definitely run it. Matter of fact, he should just be converted to RB. Might actually be a damn fine one too.
Exactly. Tate becomes the most talented back on the jets if we could bring him in and that's unlikely.
Question: If Tim Tebow was converted to a strict RB, would he wind up being the #1 back on this team? I'm thinking "Yes" myself.
I dont think so. The key to tebows game is the read option, and scrambling. essentially he needs to be playing in space. as a straight rb running through the tackles, hes probably not as good as Greene. He's strong and fast, but its not like he is running people over like a true power back, or is fast enough to be a break away guy. He would be a good back, but probably just another #2 on a roster full of #2 backs right now.
We need more talent across the board on offense. This is the first season of the Sanchez era where we will enter the season with nobody proven in the backfield other than Greene. The WR talent is lower than it was in 2010 and 2011 and likely to be where it was in 2009. I'd rather have 2009 Cotchery as the #1 than 2012 Holmes. Not because I think Cotchery is the better receiver because he clearly is not, but because Cotchery was completely accountable in the offense. In 2009 Cotchery opened up with 6,4,8 and 5 catches for Sanchez with Chansi Stuckey playing the other WR. He had injury problems that year but wound up with 9 games of 4 catches or better. Last year Holmes had 7 games with 4 catches or more. He just totally disappeared at times and he had Plaxico opposite him and Mason/Kerley in the slot. He just wasn't accountable for making the catches that needed to be made. In 2009 raw rookie Sanchez got full accountability out of Cotchery as long as his body held out. In 2011 third year Sanchez got none out of Holmes except the blame for not getting him the ball.
All this comes full circle with questions like, why did we get rid of Cotchery, why didn't we bring Braylon back, why are we just now scrambling to address the RT position with under 2 weeks left till the regular season? Love him or hate him, unless we make it to the playoffs and maybe unless we go deep in the playoffs, I think Tanny is gone.
or at a minimum a 2nd and probably Greene as well. I would bet you if Houston actually searched the market for a trade, they could get a 1st rounder for Tate.
