Why can't Jones play RT?

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  1. Jtuds

    Jtuds Active Member

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    I am a supporter of drafting Ferguson and am confused by those who say that moving Jones to RT will result in our QB continuously getting killed. I can totally understand that there is an adjustment required when you're going to be doing everything basically oppostite, but after the adjustment period what would stop him from being just as able on the other side?
     
  2. AMJets

    AMJets Well-Known Member

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    He's too small, and his entire skill set is that of a LT. No one knows if he can actually learn to play RT (he'd still be very small for the position), because he's not a natural tackle, and the only reason he was moved to the tackle position was because he displayed the proper techniques of a left tackle, not of a right tackle.
     
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    This is what I am asking, what's the diff.?

    Is it because a RT needs to be bigger cuz he protects the QBs backside?
     
  4. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    He can't play RT because he is overrated.

    He isn't big enough to play the right side and is just beginning to become a decent LT.
     
  5. AMJets

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    A RT needs to be bigger because the ends on the right side are usually bigger, and better in run support. Jones is small, and his potential lies in his pass-protecting ability.
     
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    28rogerblaze51 New Member

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    First of all the right side protection are for the power DE's and a power RT is needed, jones is too small and i don't think he is as effective going to his left on a inside move...

    Going to your left on a outside move is alot diffrent one has alot of space to make up when you are about to get beaten.. When a power DE goes inside jones goes to his left and won't have room to make up when he gets beaten, therefore he has to rely on his strength which he really needs to work on heavily.
     
  7. 1028

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    Team usually put a pass rushing end to the Qbs blindside. Since they are usually undersized and one dimensional, teams usually put bigger defensive ends that specialize in run stuffing on the other side, to complement their speed rusher and balance the line.

    With that in mind...

    LTs must have the athletic ability and quickness to handle speed rushers coming off the edge, but they also need the base to anchor against the bull rush. RTs need to have an explosive first step and be able to anchor themselves, and get enough leg drive to get movement in the running game. The two sets of tackles rarely share similar skills...tackles that get the job done well in both areas are rare
     
  8. Martin is the man

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    I feel it's more of a fact of if you have someone who can play left tackle why move him, good left tackles are hard to come by so why replace him when you have one, I think he can play RT and if Mario Williams is gone when we draft we should draft D Brick, but other than that let A.J. keep his job
     
  9. dabrowsk1

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    You all realize that Jones started off as a RT last year right? They shifted him over to LT when Fabini got hurt (I believe that was when at least). He sucked completely at RT, and it took him the rest of the season to be a half-way decent/average LT. I really don't see him as a starter in either position, since he has played both tackle positions he is good for depth IMO. For him to go from mediocre last year to solid starter is goint to be one hell of a herculean effort on his part (especially considering Brick being on the table).
     
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    At RT, the Jets need a very good run blocker. Jones' natural position is at LT, like Ferguson. They both have the foot speed and athletisism to pass block, but neither have the power to be an effective run blocker at RT. McKenzie was a good run blocker, adequate pass blocker, but you need the right side to overpwer opposing D lines in a man blocking scheme like the jets will use this year. Jones simply isn't that guy. He might be good at RT in a zone blocking scheme.... but not as a power man blocker.
     
  11. hydro51

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    thats what young players do with good coaching .. they develop. jones is a 24 yr old 2nd year player and played 1 nfl season and your acting is if he is past his prime or potentially tapped out.
     
  12. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    Because he just simply sucks at RT. He did awful when playing RT in 05, but when he moved, he looked much better and he can only get better. Just leave him at LT and no worries.
     
  13. PennyandtheJets

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    What makes you think he can "only get better"? I have seen many players play ok one year and then drop off the next.

    Adrian Jones is my least favorite Jet because of the way he is hyped on here.
     
  14. Jet Blue

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    Cuz we would have a below average Run blocker at LT (Brick I presume is in your plans) a below average run Blocker at RT and Possibly Teague, a Horrible run blocker at center and an 80 year old Running back...

    Our running game would be the laughing stock of organized Football.
     
  15. You typically want an RT to be a bigger mauling type so they can handle the strong side DE's who usually are bull rushers. Jones biggest weakness is the bull rush which makes him very vulnerable at the RT spot. Plain and simple.

    Also, RT is where you'd like to have somebody who can anchor the running game, due to the fact that most RB's prefer to run to the right, the majority of the time. The fact is, Jones will most likely never be a great run blocker. He doesn't have the leverage nor natural leg drive.

    What Jones does have is great athleticism, intangibles and technique. That, combined w/ his weaknesses make him ideal at the more "finesse" spots on the line of Center and LT.

    He made alot of strides this past season and if he develops this offseason, he can be a very good LT for us. This is why many of us question the "neccessity" of taking Brick like many on here are crying for. That isn't to say if Brick is there at 4, and is the BPA, we shouldnt take him. But he isn't the no brainer selection that many portray him to be.
     
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    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  17. hydro51

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    the thing i find so funnyis so many people are sitting here willing to giive chad his 2nd consecutive chance to get better from a injury no qb has ever even came back from once. But adrian jones who has all the tools (and they work) and is young (24) not going to be 30 in few months. but he cant get better? and doesnt deserve a chance?
     
  18. AMJets

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    The reason he started off at RT was because we lost McKenzie, and Bradway was too stupid to address the OL through the draft or free agency. He was also not ready to be a LT last year, he shouldn't have played the position AT ALL last season. It's not going to be hard for him to go from mediocre to solid starter, unless it's a personal opinion because you don't understand the situation and want to bash him just because you dislike him or something.
     
  19. Khan

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    ok then tell me who was blocking Simeon Rice from getting any sacks in that game again the Bucs?
     
  20. KSJets

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    Everybody keeps saying AJ is too small. It's entirely possible for him to put on some weight in the offseason and bulk up. We honestly don't know what his current weight is.
     
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