These are the 44 players who are sure of making the team, unless a piano falls on their head (i.e. season ending injury). Keeping in mind we obviously will have a K and a P on our roster (I'm predicting Folk and Conley but maybe we'll bring in someone during final cuts) that leaves 7 spots open for competition between "real" football players. Offense (21) QB: Sanchez - Brunell - McElroy WR: Holmes - Burress - Mason - Kerley TE: Keller - Cumberland - Mulligan RB&FB: Greene - Tomlinson - McKnight - Powell - Conner T: Ferguson - Hunter - Ducasse G: Slauson - Moore C: Mangold Defense (22) NT: Pouha - Tevaseu - Ellis DE: DeVito - Wilkerson - Pitoitua - Dixon ILB: Harris - Scott - Mauga OLB: Pace - Thomas - Westerman S: Leonhard - Smith - Lowery - Pool CB: Revis - Cromartie - Wilson - Strickland - Cole ST (1) LS: Purdum OL: If R. Turner doesn't go on IR he'll be on the 53 man roster. Last estimate I heard was he wouldn't be able to play until around the bye week, but he's important for this team and will come in handy for the latter part of the season + (hopefully) play-offs. One more OL will make the team for sure (can't see us carrying less than 8 OL) and I predict it will be Felix. The CS likes him, he knows the system, having been here last year, and he proved he can be a viable backup for Mangold. He'll also be cheap. A veteran C/G might be an option but I think it only makes sense if Turner goes on IR. We might decide to start the season with 9 OL (again considering Turner's injury) and in that case I really have no idea who the 9th OL could be. Landolt played well in the pre-season (wk 4 will be telling) but we might bring someone else in, either during final cuts or a veteran. A lot will also depend on how Ducasse plays. I think he's been solid the last 2 preseason games... hopefully he keeps it up wk 4. if Turner doesn't go on IR -> R. Turner - Felix make the team. if Turner goes on IR -> Felix - (Kroul, a vet or someone during final cuts) I don't think we keep 9 OL on the 53 man roster. WR: The Payne vs Turner battle. Really depends on what the CS deems more valuable. Payne is the better STer while Turner might turn out to be the better WR & red zone threat in the future. I wouldn't be against keeping both on the team but if I had to decide I'd keep Turner around and trust Westhoff on working some magic in substituing Payne on ST. That's because I don't think we'd keep 5 WRs active on gameday, thus neglecting Payne's ST value. Also I'd like to have some insurance if Burress gets hurt and turner is a similar type of player. However if Tanny feels confident he can find a way to sneak Turner on the PS that's where he would ideally fit. -> P. Turner makes the team. LB: Bellore, McIntyre, Maybin, Jones. These guys are (should) all in consideration for roster spots. I have a feeling Bellore really solidified his position after his outing vs the Giants so he should be in. Maybin vs McIntyre vs Jones is an interesting one. I think the CS is intrigued by Maybin skillset and might want to keep him here to see if they cna turn him into a DPR. McIntyre clearly needs some time to adapt playing OLB but he is relentless and a force on ST. Also he's gotten better as the pre-season went on. Jones is a guy flying very much under the radar but I think he's a very solid STer. Ultimately I think hell make the PS. All of these guys will need to show they really want to be Jets in wk 4 so the jury is still out... -> Bellore - Maybin - McIntyre make the team. (McIntyre is in competition with Payne as to who Westhoff deems more useful on ST, whoever loses is headed to the PS). S: Cook vs Landor. Because of knowledge of the system and having proved it on ST last year I think Cook is very likely to make the team with Landor headed to the PS. -> Cook makes the team. --------------------------------------------------------------------------To sum it all up I think the 53 man roster will be: Offense QB: Sanchez - Brunell - McElroy WR: Holmes - Burress - Mason - Kerley - P. Turner TE: Keller - Cumberland - Mulligan RB&FB: Greene - Tomlinson - McKnight - Powell - Conner T: Ferguson - Hunter - Ducasse G: Slauson - Moore - R. Turner C: Mangold - Felix Defense NT: Pouha - Tevaseu - Ellis DE: DeVito - Wilkerson - Pitoitua - Dixon ILB: Harris - Scott - Mauga - Bellore OLB: Pace - Thomas - Westerman - Maybin S: Leonhard - Smith - Lowery - Pool - Cook CB: Revis - Cromartie - Wilson - Strickland - Cole +1 between Payne - McIntyre - (9th OL) depending on what the Westy & CS prefer... ST (1) LS: Purdum K: Folk P: Conley or a vet -------------------------------------------------------------------------- While we are at it... Practice Squad: Kroul - Landolt - Baker - Payne/McKnight - Gilbert/Washington - McIntyre/Jones - Landor - Posey
Logan Payne is injured. He'll more than likely be put on the shelf. Also, McIntyre and Payne play completely different roles on specials. That's not a competition. I doubt we'll carry three nose tackles either. Tevaseu will be the odd man out - likely placed on the PS. Rex calls way too man four man fronts to carry three fat loads. Pouha is a beast and Ellis will be a solid backup there.
Over who? Mo Wilkerson and Mike DeVito will lock those spots down. Pitoitua will definitely get a lot of reps as a rotational end. ...and so will Marcus Dixon.
1) We still don't know for how much... if it's a significant injury I think we'll stash him on IR. But as of now I'm presuming it's minor (< than a month). 2) I know, but I don't know in which roles we have more depth and in which we have less. Who plays Payne's role if he's not in? What about McIntyre's? All i was saying is it's up to Westhoff (or injuries) as to who stays between the two, not their contribution as a WR or OLB. 3) Ellis might also be used to play some DE. The last two years we've kept 8 DL, getting down to 7 is already an improvement. Plus, as you always say, we mix it up a lot in the trenches.
it's a dislocated wrist....I wouldn't consider that minor (especially for a wideout). http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/je...an-payne-dislocates-left-wrist-mri-on-tuesday
All I'm saying is I'm not a doctor and I have no idea what the timetable for that injury is... do you? After the MRI to see if there's any ligament damage we'll have a better idea. Oh and who cares if he's a wideout... he's going to make the team as a ST, not because of how good he is at catching the ball.
uhhh...wideouts need their hands. That's why it could be significant. And yes, i've had a wrist injury before from playing hockey....the timetable for recovery could vary depending on how much damage has been done. I was on the shelf for a month.
You don't keep a fifth string wideout with a dislocated or broken wrist. He won't be able to contribute - Pat Turner or maybe Josh Baker will make it over him. He's not an important player, so the team will most likely move on. ...unfortunate injury for the guy because he was showing potential, but this is a "what can you do for me now" league, especially on STs. You don't understand. WRs and LBs do different things on specials. There's gunners and then there's guys that just run down the field and fuck shit up. Logan Payne is obviously going to get down the field faster than a heavy backer like Garrett McIntyre. If the Jets keep Josh Mauga, Nick Bellore, and Brashton Satele, we'll be set with special teams backers. Who can play Payne's role? Marquice Cole, Emanuel Cook, and Ellis Lankster Who can play McIntyre's role? Jeff Cumberland, Jamaal Westerman, Brashton Satele, Josh Baker, and Nick Bellore. Josh Baker is a long shot to make this team because even though we're not necessarily "deep" at tight end, we're carrying a lot of them. He's a freakishly talented athlete though, so he may find a role as a special teams backer. Pouha and Ellis will definitely be on the field in most short yardage situations. That's a brick wall. That still doesn't mean we should keep three nose tackles, especially when Wilkerson, DeVito, and Dixon can play inside in four man fronts.
One could argue all football players need hands (except maybe kickers). I'm just saying if he's in there only to play on ST he doesn't need to have his hand at 100% (like he would if he were out there catching the ball). Of course if we were talking about Burress, Holmes or Mason it would matter a lot more... As soon as more news comes out on Payne we'll know wether to exclude him or not from this conversation... atm I thought it was too early to completely discard him.
No, they'll be two starters at end and then multiple rotational guys. Is Joe McKnight a starter because he will get some reps behind LT and Greene? ...didn't think so.
LOL. They will all get significant playing time, but saying they'll 'all be starters' suggests that we'll be going with the famed 6 man front.
1) I want to wait for an MRI before counting him out. Also if you read my OP I have Turner making the team regardless of Payne. 2) I do understand. I get it that they play different roles... but I don't know who Westy would keep between the two. I like Baker a lot, in fact I have him on the PS, and would be happy if he made the team in case Payne's injury is serious. I don't think Satele makes the team... PS candiate with MAuga and Bellore emerging. 3) I wouldn't keep 3 NT in an ideal situation. But with Pouha's knee hurting + him being in a contract year and with Ellis in his first year in the league I wouldn't mind having some insurance. Also the CS is high on MTV and finding solid NTs isn't the easiest thing in the world... (that said Baas owned him yesterday, but he's a good C).
Not really, it just means how they are listed on the depth chart really means nothing. This is what Ryan has wanted since he got here and now he has the people to do it.
I really don't see us keeping 5 ILBs. And I really hope we don't keep Lankster. Don't forget about McKnight, though. He was used in that role on ST at times late last year. No, I'd prefer we don't keep 3 NTs, but that's been the talk out of camp the past week.
Any wrist injury is going to work against him. The battle was close. I thought as of this morning that Payne was more likely, then I heard about the injury. Now, I'm guessing it's Turner, regardless of severity. If he won't play Thursday (and he won't), he's really unlikely to make final cuts.
