Week 6 Studs and Duds NYJ vs PHI

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Studs

    Defense - Don't really think I have to explain this one, but the D was fire. 0 points allowed in the 2nd half. forced 4 turnovers. Q got a pick, Quincy got a fumble that mosley forced with a great punch out. adams got a pick, hall who went from starter to CB5 got a pick and looked great, craig james a PS player forced to start held his own too. Huff and JJ were monsters on the line. really was a team effort on D

    Special teams - greg the leg was money once again. Morestead is such a great punter. hope he gives us 1 more year after this one. watching mann shank a punt for the eagles was lol.

    Coaching - I know some will disagree as saleh made some mistakes, but we had every reason to give up on this game and the season after rodgers went down, but saleh has this team believing. taking down the last left undefeated team is impressive. I thought we had no chance as did most people. but saleh made sure the players knew. Ulbrich had a master gameplan to confuse hurts and shut down their offense that worked. hackett will get some crap due to the low score but the offensive gameplan was pretty solid, we just didn't execute it well.


    Duds

    Offense - overall we didn't move the ball well and when we did, we found ways to kill ourselves. hall didn't do much, zach did a good job not turning it over and looking the part but didn't put up many points. he wasn't awful but he wasn't good. which for our talented team can work thanks to the roster JD put together. Outside of GW who gave it all nobody on offense was particularly good. The o-line actually held up well even with tippman going out. mitchell and becton were beat a little but held up against a top D-line. schweitzer was the weak link, hopefully tippman is ok. the bye comes at a good time where some minor injuries can heal up. lazards blindside block was a bonehead move that cost us a good drive. should have had 1st and 10 from the red zone and instead wound up 3rd and 23 and couldn't even get a FG out of the drive.

    Refs - really tired of getting fucked by the refs. that overturned TD during a commercial was such nonsense. giants almost upset the bills which would have put us in 2nd place in the division but the refs fucked them at the end of that game. they should have had another end zone shot.

    The positive
    Most people would have been happy with a 3-3 even if we had rodgers. in hindsight with rodgers we may be 5-1 right now. 3-3 going into the bye with the schedule easing up is great. we get a week off then the lowly giants which should get us positive on the season. lets root for a chargers loss tonight as it could help in the wild card battle.

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    also want to give props to zach for 2 "vet moves" that we haven't seen from him before that rodgers does all the time. 1 was hurrying the team to the line to force a 12 man penalty on the D for a free play and the other was drawing the D offisides for a free play. I think those are the 1st 2 free plays I've seen a QB force for us in a long as time. can't even remember the last time.
     
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  2. teamgreen

    teamgreen Well-Known Member

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    Duds = Lazard whose unnecessary penalty and costly drop nearly cost the Jets the game.
     
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  3. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    The penalty was crap. He was playing football and was squared up. It was not a penalty. If he doesn’t block him and the guy makes the tackle he’s probably ripped in film today.
     
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  4. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    i mentioned it in my post
    it was the correct call sadly. bonehead play by lazard. it was a blindside block. they changed the rule in 2019 IIRC on it due to 1/3rd of concussions in the NFL coming on that type of block
     
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    The penatly and the drop killed a drive. Lazard absolutely didn't need to throw the block like he did and he should know better. It was a penalty. The ref called it.
     
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    BleedJetsGreen1981 Well-Known Member

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    They called it a "Blindside Block". Lazard was standing right in front of him. The refs were pulling at straws desperate to help the Eagles. It didn't work.
     
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  7. dawinner127

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    What are you talking about? He was squared up on him while the defender was looking directly at him. It was not a blindside block so I have no idea what you are talking about. He hit him in the chest as the defender is still in range to make the tackle. That is a bogus call.

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  8. ouchy

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    In the old days it would have been a bogus call but a few years ago they changed the rule. It is a foul if a player initiates a block when his path is toward or parallel to his own end line and makes forcible contact to his opponent with his helmet, forearm, or shoulder. This even applies behind the LOS, but especially downfield. They want all blocks moving towards your endzone to be with the hands/body position.
     
  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    it's called "blindside block" but it doesn't need to be done to someone not looking. just becuase you don't understand the rule doesn't make it bogus. how about listening and learning. I'll explain it.
    it's any player coming back towards or parallel to their end line (which he was), making force-able contact with his head, shoulder, or forearm (which he did). it's sadly a textbook example of the rule. it's a safety rule for players added in 2019.
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    There's a reason why more than half the board as an issue with you. Learn to have a discussion without talking down to people you arrogant prick. How about you go fuck yourself.
     
  11. LAJet

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    Spot on. Dumbest play on earth. We re making way too many of those.
     
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  12. KY Jets Fan

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    Let's tone it down a bit here fellas.

    But, @dawinner127, unfortunately @GasedAndConfused is correct here. I was very upset with the call in the moment but it was the right call according to the rule book.

    I know GAC has already posted the rule but here's a link to the NFL Ops website where they discuss "defenseless players".

    "9. A player who receives a “blindside” block when the path of the offensive blocker is toward or parallel to his own end line."

    Unfortunately, Lazard was coming back towards our goal line or, at best, parallel with our GL. I do agree with you that it's kind of a BS rule, even though I think the spirt of the rule (player safety) is valid. It's a good opportunity to coach up our guys on how to properly execute these types of blocks without getting flagged.
     
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  13. LAJet

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    If behind or if it’s parallel to the path is a blind side block noe apparently. This is not the first time we get flagged down for this in a game. It must be corrected. They will call it every time.
     
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    Agree w/ the list mostly. I dont think off needs to be a dud but rather in the between stud/dud. they did move the ball between the 20s in order us to give us the opp for FGs so we should not overlook that. saleh/hack/zw/etc need to get rz scoring in order. honestly start running some screens, slants, drags, reverses w/ gipson to get it going.
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    I have no issue with being corrected and learning what the exact rule is. I do have an issue with that guy responding like an asshat. Seems to be a common trend with that poster. Not first time he just talks down to someone like he's some football god.

    There's a way to go about it (take a look how Ouchy responded) and having a normal conversation with someone and then you have GAC :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    I think if you get blocked or tackled hard these days you should absolutely fall down and pretend it hurt, they will throw a flag
     
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  17. ouchy

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    Good write up G&C.
    If anything I'd say our o-line were duds. I know people think they did well considering the talent level but they still continually stall drives with sacks and penalties. We gave up 5 sacks and too many penalties.

    It wasn't flashy but Garrett also had a good game and maybe stud worthy.
     
  18. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I did try having a discussion and you were clearly wrong. what a surprise, people on the internet have an issue when they are being told they are wrong. I couldn't care less about people having an issue with me. it's only people like you who make shit up and can't handle when they are wrong. i explained the rule several times. I should have been more direct and just called you a dumbass cause thats what you are being. dumb and rude. great combo buddy
     
  19. KY Jets Fan

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    I agree, and I don't want you to think I was singling you out. That's I why I asked both of you to tone it down.

    When disagreements happen, as they will on a message board, we just need everyone to keep it civil and not attack one another.
     
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    o-lie was a little rough, we were facing a premiere d-line though. not all the sacks were on them. 1 was a naked bootleg the DE read perfectly and was gifted a sack, schwietzer got ran over a few times including 1 that he held to avoid a sack but drew the penalty. mitchell got beat a couple of times too.

    GW played his ass off and had 1 amazing catch on the sideline but the turf monster got him. he's dealing with an ankle injury. hopefully minor and the week off helps
     

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