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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! That's another factor in why we're 1-13. The OL had no time to gel. We had 4 new starters. We had no choice, we had to replace those stiffs from last season. That wouldn't have been ideal in any season, but especially in a season where you have no mini-camps, OTAs, and abbreviated TC, and no preseason.
     
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  2. mrjet80

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    That’s not true. He signed a six year contract because he realized he had a major rebuilding job and needed a lot of guaranteed years to do it. He doesn’t have the power to fire Gase but they do not share power - they both report to ownership individually.

    I suspect that arrangement may change with the new coach.
     
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  3. HomeoftheJets

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    My definition of sharing power is that Douglas can't fire Gase without CJ's permission. If you want to call it something else, that's fine, but it doesn't change any of my arguments.
     
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    WoodyHarrelson Well-Known Member

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    Even the Sunday night crew just said even the Jets can’t lose properly
     
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    Not for nothing but Michaels and Colinsworth are a couple of dolts.
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    What? The Rams went 13 years without a winning season. They only had two seasons in that time period where they finished .500. They were an utter disaster and Goff was a mess in his rookie year. Goff - who they traded a ton of draft capital for.

    The Browns may have been paper tigers but they still only had one winning season in 16 years, and three winning seasons in 25 years. They were the definition of a gutter franchise with two personalities at wide receiving that openly hated their coaches and a defensive end that was suspended for bashing a quarterback over the head with a helmet.

    The point is - if an NFL franchise comes knocking for an NFL coordinator or a long time college coach at a smaller programs that can't out recruit the bigger ones, those guys will jump out of their chairs to take that job. There will only be the usual 4-6 open jobs this year.
     
  7. fansince90

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    Maybe we are dodging a bullet? We as a fan base have the habit of putting all of our money on one number... maybe JD continues to make good draft choices. #jetlife!
     
  8. NCJetsfan

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    No, he wouldn't have had to share power with Gase for 6 years. Douglas has the option of quitting, of walking away any time. I think he probably thought that Gase would have been fired after last season, or at worst after this season. That would give him time to prove to the Johnsons that he is competent and reliable, to earn their trust, and gain more power and control. He knows that he has a lot of respect around the league, and if he shows that he can handle all the facets of being GM and draft well, he can probably write his own ticket with about any team in the NFL looking for a GM. He could use the Jets as a stepping stone to a better job with more power and control. He probably saw this as a golden opportunity to prove himself, and that it was a win-win situation. If he was able to turn the Jets around, then he'd be a hero in NY and have even more respect. If the Johnsons continued to do things stupidly and didn't listen to him, he could walk and get another job in a NY minute. Either way, he was betting on himself to be a winner no matter what happened.
     
  9. HomeoftheJets

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    If Douglas found himself in a position where he felt the need to quit, whatever happened to get him to that point would almost certainly have made him less appealing to other teams. Also, can you just quit and then take another job? When Belichick quit the Jets, he only got to go to the Pats becuase the Jets agreed to trade him there.
     
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    Part of the problem is Sam needing to learn new offenses... he won’t show vast improvement until he owns the offense and doesn’t have to think so much.
     
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    The 2016 Rams were bad, but they were 4-12 bad, not (likely) 1-15 bad. And while the Browns were a gutter franchise, they had a lot of talent that just needed to be straightened out.

    Yes I agree that there will be plenty of people lining up to take the Jets job. But if there turns out to be a slam dunk candidate available, he's going to Jacksonville, not here. Which means as with the QB, we're going to have to luck out, and with the Johnsons running the show, good luck to us.
     
  13. fansince90

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    Hopefully they have identified a plan b already.
     
  14. Snoopdogg

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    Absolutely. Forget that, pretty much anybody who is not a current head coach will jump to take the job. Any franchise can be turned around. I never expected the Browns to be good. Heck, Theo Epstein broke separate 86- and 108-year championship droughts.

    There are only 32 of these jobs at the pinnacle of this profession. The number of people who would not take the job can be counted on one hand. Say the top four college coaches because they have too cushy a life and don't want to take a pay cut, and some idiot like Josh McDaniels who thinks a head coaching job is beneath him. That's it.
     
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    No, if Douglas felt the need to quit because the Johnsons were stupid, how would that make him less appealing to other teams? He's proven that he is great in negotiating trades, handling FA and the draft, in working with others. It would not have any negative impact on him unless he had failed in some aspect of his job.

    Why couldn't he take another job? Teams can fire GMs and HCs, and they can take another job. If Douglas quit, it would mean the Johnsons didn't have to pay him the last 3-4 years of his contract. I don't think they'd have any grounds for stopping him going to work for another team, but if they can, that's wrong.
     
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    Both over the hill numb nuts. Who cares
     
  17. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    They were the 32nd ranked offense in points for and 23rd ranked defense. They ran for 3.3 yards per carry and their offensive line was an absolute disaster. They were pretty bad with a defense that played well for our boy Gregg Williams. They weren't that different from the Jets.

    The Browns situation was better in terms of talent, but it's still a difficult proposition to move to a city like Cleveland to try to turn around the NFL's worst franchise of the past thirty years.

    But I guess that's my point. It's not that difficult of a proposition to take an NFL coaching job.
     
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    That will be the end for me. If people are smart more will follow. Supporting this mess will keep it going in the same direction
     
  19. Jets4eva9011

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    This team is just truly cursed beyond belief. As you said, 1-15 easily gets you the #1 pick in literally any other year. Of course, the one year they do so with a top QB prospect, the fucking Jags are also heading for 1-15. Can't make this shit up.

    At least it's not over yet, root for the Jags to beat the Bears next week.
     
  20. bigbucks24

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    I wouldn't think someone could sign a contract, break the contract and go work for the competition. If that were possible, why wouldn't players do it?
     

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