Wang out for the Year

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  1. rhodesfan16

    rhodesfan16 New Member

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    Via Peter Abraham

    Bad news very very bad news I was really hoping he would pitch latter this year. It also looked like he was improving tough blow. Looks like we will be getting a new pitcher at the trade deadline
     
  2. GreenMachine

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    I did that once for a night. Never for a year.
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    He might not be back at the beginning of next year either. They won't know what the timetable is until after the surgery is done.
     
  4. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Even if they don't expect Wang back for the beginning of next year, the Yankees still don't need to trade for another pitcher.

    Just in the organization we have Hughes, Aceves, Mitre, possibly Coke, Kennedy will be back and other talent in the minors.

    People are getting way too reactionary. It's a shame we're going to lose Wang for such a long period, but it's not like he was pitching well anyway. At least we know there's a good reason why. Let's see what happens, but I think it's crazy to try to make something happen in this trading market right now with the demands being made.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    They might not need to but they will. They didn't spend 450 million this winter to not make it deep in the playoffs again this year. Next year isn't the issue. Right now if anything happen to Pettitte or Burnette (both are possible) you are looking at a back end of Mitre and Igawa. They won't take that chance.
     
  6. 17a_tailgater

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    wow alio who saw this coming????
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    People are getting way too reactionary? Alio didn't you give up on the season a couple of months ago? You are always too reactionary.

    I think we need another starter for this year, going forward we'll be ok but for this year we need another starter.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Washburn is the guy to get. His ERA is as good as Halladay's. So is his WHIP and his run support is almost 2 runs per game less. His contract is over this year. They can get him much cheaper than Halladay and then they have the option to let him go or keep him. (Boras is his agent).
     
  9. Cappy

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    Well, it's not like having Wang return this year (and return to form) was a likely outcome, so I'm not sure how this affects what Cashman should or will do.

    I wonder what it'd take to pry Gil Meche from the Royals? He hasn't been pitching very well for them this year (compared to the two previous years), is a career league average(ish) pitcher in the AL, is owed a decent chunk of money, and isn't as vital to the team now that Grienke's stepped up. I wouldn't expect a lot out of him, but he wouldn't be expected to be anything more than the Yanks' #5 guy, anyway.

    I wonder if something like Melky/Miranda/Betances is enough to get it done.


    ETA: Washburn is a fluke this year. He's doing it with smoke and mirrors. I wouldn't expect his performance to continue as it has. Trading for him is the epitome of "buying high."
     
  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I agree. Washburn is having a career year. (Don't Boras clients always have one in their contract year?). The good part the Yankees can walk away. That's why I think he would be pretty reasonable. The problem is they can't really trade Cabrerra unless they are ready to bring up Jackson and I don't think they are.
     
  11. AlioTheFool

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    I mostly agree with you, except on the part of trading outfielders for Meche. We're already suffering a distinct lack of outfield talent. Who would play center right now if you trade Melky? Damon? I'd rather not deal with that. Swisher is bad enough in right, I'd cringe seeing him in center. So what do you do? Recall Pena and hope he can get the job done? Then hand the position back to Gardner as your everyday guy when he's healthy again?

    Obviously Miranda is a nice bargaining chip right now thanks to Teixeira, but you have to be careful what else you give up. This outfield is weak enough as it is.
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    Oh, and 17a, you might want to take a look at your own abomination before throwing around the "I was right" line. Should we talk about how I told Mets not to get excited over JJ Putz?
     
  12. Cappy

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    Yeah, walk away after giving up far more talent than they should because the guy IS having a career year.
     

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