What do you guys think of thsi new rule. This rule is BS to me. sometimes thats the only way to bring a guy down. Whats next you can't grab the Jersey?
I loved the tackle to save the play from going further, but did you see how his legs twisted under his body as he was falling. Pretty dangerous .
So was the hit on Jerricho Cotchery when he scored his TD last week, so is every hit that causes players to flip and land on their head, and countless other types of hits... pulling a jersey is no more dangerous than an open field tackle.
Why don't they just somehow redesign the back of the uniform so you are unable to get a grasp of the shoulder pads or uniform from behind? Because, unless you are going to institute a two-hand touch rule in a situation like that, how is it fair to prevent the defender from making that tackle?
i dont know if it is as much of the rule as it is that being a TERRIBLE call i kinda agree with the horsecollar tackle penalty just cause theyre trying to prevent blatant attempt to injur a player but that one by vilma was just making the tackle... and he clearly used most of his force ont eh shoulder, not the neck area. Just because he had his hand there, and then went on to make the tackle, they called it but yes, the refs are making it look like you need to get in front of the guy before you tackle him with this rule and the tripping rule they call sometimes in the wrong place
I am not against the rule per se. But in this instance I thought Vilma grabbed his shoulder and not the shoulder pad in the back. Maybe I am not sure what constitutes a horse-collar tackle, but I thought it was the shoulder pads in the back.
I didn't think it was a horse collar. It looked like he grabbed the guys shoulder and pulled him down. My understanding of the rule is you have to grab the collar of the shoulder pads and pull them down by that in order for it to be a foul.
it wasn't even a horse collar tackle. He got him on the shoulder pad if you look closely. I can sort of understand this rule because of the danger. But it shouldn't be ALL horse collar tackles calls for a penalty. Only like really violent ones. Like the one where TO broke his leg.
haha. four people all just posted at the same time saying how it wasnt even a horse collar that just shows how obvious it was to everyone but the one guy who makes the call
The rule has to be better defined. I'm totally on line with the rule as it pertains to grabbing inside the collar and bringing the player down. The result in the past has been injuries, some of which have been really bad. Just like Vilam did a player should be able to grab the Jersey or the shoulder and tackle a player. These kind of tackles do not allow for the violent take dows you would sometimes see. Which is again the whole reason why the rule was put into place....to eleiminate the violent take downs that often result in injury.
The one thing about this penalty is it is pretty easy to spot. I think it is designed to help protect the legs of the ball carrier. I can see why they envoked it this year.
The horsecollar rule is fairly sensible, as is the one that came in as a result of the Carson Palmer injury. What's not sensible is this illegal contact nonsense. Peyton Manning loses a game, whines to the league about it, and they change the rules? Granted, some penalties needed to be called, but the contact thing is ridiculous. -X-
I agree with you. Vilma didn't grab him by the collar. His left hand touch his back but he pulled him down by his shoulder with his right hand. I think it's a good rule actually...but just like everything else in the NFL, they make it too much of a ticky tack thing. If it's a blatant horse collar than I have no problem throwing the flag. But just because a guy gets taken down from the side or behind doesn't constitute an automatic flag.
I can't understand how a defensive player is supposed to think now with all of these lame penalties. Football is a contact soprt, injuries happen. It's unfortunate to see, but that's the way it is. People are going to still get hurt now matter how many restrictions they put tackling. It's only a matter of time before the NFL changes its name to the NFFL (National Flag Football League). Then they'll probably take the damn flags away too.
the rule too protect players which is good but they are playing FOOTBALL. i dont even think its the fact he was by the horse collar but how he violently slammed him which drew the flag. With all these areas he cant hit QBs in anymore soon they are going to be wearing flags you have to pull.
IFFY rule, i would rather just let these guys play. The Vilma call directly, was close, it looked worse then it was, so out came the flag.
Honestly, the flag only came out because of the way the ball carrier went down. It LOOKED like he had received a horse collar tackle, but he didn't. The guy just crumpled in an ugly way that brought the flag out.
