Unless Titans rookie rips off long gains, look for Jets upset- Charles Casserly

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by UncleTomNYJ, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. UncleTomNYJ

    UncleTomNYJ Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2006
    Messages:
    1,642
    Likes Received:
    6
    Good Article CBSSPORTS.COM
    On Sunday, the undefeated Titans (10-0) play host to the 7-3 New York Jets, who are in first place in the AFC East. This, to me, is the Game of the Year so far. After a 1-2 start, the Jets have gone 6-1, with their only loss being to Oakland in overtime. The Jets come into this game off a crucial overtime win at New England last Thursday night and with three extra days of rest for the players and preparation time for the coaches. Those points should not be underestimated. At this time of year, extra rest will help all players, but especially the Jets, who have some older players like Brett Favre, Alan Faneca and Damien Woody, to name a few. It will also help the backs and receivers get "fresher" legs going into this game.
    This will be the Titans' toughest game to date and, with the next three opponents being Detroit, Cleveland and Houston -- matchups Tennessee will be decidedly favored in -- this game probably is all that stands in the way of the Titans being 14-0 going into their Week 16 showdown at home with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
    The best teams the Titans have played are probably Baltimore, with a rookie QB, and Indianapolis, with Peyton Manning still trying to find his grove. But take nothing away from the Titans: They won both of those games with strong fourth quarters. In fact, the common perception -- and I agreed with it -- was to stack your defense to stop the run and let Kerry Collins and the Titans wide receivers beat you. Guess what? In the past four games, that has been the strategy and Collins and the receivers have responded to help the Titans stay undefeated.
    For the Jets, the season has been a growing process. The obvious issue was merging newcomer Favre with the offense. The coaches and players had to learn Favre and he had to learn the system and players. One area where the coaches have adjusted to Favre was putting in more empty-backfield formations. The empty backfield means there are no backs behind the quarterback.
    This was a popular formation in Green Bay when Favre was there. It allows the QB to scan the field quickly and find an open receiver and get rid of the ball. This plays to one of Favre's strengths: scanning the field from sideline to sideline and making a quick decision where to throw the ball. It declares the coverage and blitz intention of the defense earlier, which makes a veteran quarterback like Favre especially dangerous.
    The Jets have had to incorporate all the new starters they have on offense and defense. This takes time for the players to mesh and learn the system, as well as for the coaches to learn the players' strengths and weaknesses. The Jets added at times eight new starters to their team. It is only logical it would take some time for this group to come together and play well as a team.
     
  2. UncleTomNYJ

    UncleTomNYJ Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2006
    Messages:
    1,642
    Likes Received:
    6
    CONT......

    Here are some of the keys to the game:
    Titans offense vs. Jets defense
    The Titans have one of the best rushing offenses in the NFL, and the Jets are one of the best teams defending the run. The key matchup in this battle will be Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins vs. Titans center Kevin Mawae.
    In a 3-4 defense, which is what the Jets play, the nose tackle must dominate the center in one-on-one battles and force a guard help the center. If that happens, it frees up one of the inside linebackers to run free to the ball. An unsung hero of the Jets defensive line is Shaun Ellis, who will move around and line up in different positions to get advantageous matchups.
    Watch the play of the outside linebackers Calvin Pace and Bryan Thomas as the Jets try to stop Tennessee's ground game. Both of these players were originally defensive ends. They are big and physical and should present problems for Titans tight ends.
    If the Jets can stop the Titans' running game with only seven men in the box, then that will be an edge -- and I think they can do it. As I watch each play unfold, I want to see if Jenkins is winning his matchup with Mawae. I will then look at the side the Titans are running to and see if Pace and Thomas are winning their matchups.
    The key for the Titans is staying patient with the run, because they have a home-run threat in rookie running back Chris Johnson. He can go along and be stopped a number of times and then, with one seam being opened because the Jets misplayed a gap, Johnson can make a big play. The Jets must play their gaps with discipline in this game.
    The Jets have struggled vs. no-huddle teams. The Titans will be aware of this. The other area the Titans will try to exploit is the pass coverage of New York's outside linebackers. As I said before, there were originally defensive ends. The way to exploit this is to spread your formations out and make them play in space.
    If the Titans try to stay tight in their formations, they will have trouble running the ball because I think Jenkins and the rest of the Jets' front seven will give them problems. But if Tennessee varies its formations and tempo with some hurry-up offense, it will move the ball on the ground.
    The key for the Titans when throwing the ball is giving Collins time, which is something they do very well. The key for the Jets will be their pass rush; a strong inside pass rush does not allow a quarterback to step up into the pocket. The key man again will be Jenkins. The matchup inside that favors Jenkins the most will be against Titans guard Eugene Amano.
    I think the Jets will force Collins to try to win it again by making plays to his wide receivers. I would look for the Titans to go after rookie corner Dwight Lowery. The interesting thing will be how much Ty Law plays. I think Law can help in nickel or short-area coverage, but I doubt he can be effective in off-man coverage.
    Jets offense vs. Titans defense
    The Titans defense starts with Albert Haynesworth. He can be a dominating player, which will make it a real treat to watch two of the year's best defensive lineman, Haynesworth and Jenkins, in action.
    Haynesworth against Faneca will be a great matchup, with Haynesworth probably being prodded all week by his coaches about this showdown. Faneca, who has a lot of pride, will rise to the occasion and probably play his best game of the year. Where the Titans have a bigger edge is at the other DT-OG matchup: Tony Brown of the Titans vs. Brandon Moore of the Jets.
    I think the Titans will make it hard for the Jets to run inside the tackles. The Jets have the backs to be effective running outside with Thomas Jones and Leon Washington, and I would look for them to try to do this. I believe they can be effective.
    In fact, when you defend the Jets, you must stop Washington first. He is the big-play weapon. He not only is effective running the ball but he is also good on screens, draws and kick returns, and he has the versatility to line up in different positions. Since the Jets move him around a lot, I do not know if you can plan a specific defense for him, but one way to limit his effectiveness is to wear him down. Make sure you get a hit on him, whether he has the ball or not. If he has the ball, emphasize gang tackling and being extra physical in doing it.
    That brings us to Favre. There are a couple of constants with Favre: No play is ever over and no receiver is ever out of a play. Both of these situations can work for you -- or against you. Brett has the field vision to see things most quarterbacks won't and he can still make a lot of big-time throws, but he will also take some chances. Will Favre play like he did in New England, error free, or will he make the one or two bad plays that haunted him in the weeks leading up to the Pats game?
    We have not seen him make many throws down the field recently. Some might question his arm strength to throw the deep ball, but he is playing with two good receivers, Laveranues Coles and Jerricho Cotchery, who aren't big speed guys. That might explain some of the recent lack of big pass plays down the field. By the way, in the Cardinals game on Sept. 28, four of Favre's six touchdown passes came when Arizona either blew the coverage or had a defender fall down.
    Favre is still an effective passer and inspires confidence in the Jets that their offense can score every time they get the ball and win every game. Because of him, the Jets will not be intimidated by going to Nashville to play the undefeated Titans and their top-flight defense.
    Don't look for Jets receivers to have big games against the Titans secondary; the player to watch is rookie tight end Dustin Keller. He was a major weapon in the victory over the Pats. The Jets need a big game from him, and it seems Favre is in sync with him. What makes Keller effective is he is quick and fast and hard for linebackers or safeties to match up with.
    I like the Jets to upset the Titans in this game. The 10 days off is an advantage for the Jets: They will be well rested, have an extra day to practice and a couple of extra days to prepare for this game. Also not to be taken lightly is their confidence gained in beating New England.
    The negative for the Jets, besides playing a terrific, well-balanced team, is they are going to play in Tennessee, where the crowd noise will give the Titans' talented defensive line the split-second advantage that makes it tough to block them. This is the best defense the Titans have faced since Baltimore on Oct. 5. I think the Jets defense will contain the Titans running game and ask Collins to win it, which he has proven he can do. Let's not forget Collins has been to the Pro Bowl and Super Bowl, so his clutch performances over the past month should not be a complete surprise. That being said, I do not think the Titans will score a lot of points.
    I don't think the Jets will score a lot of points, either, but I think they will win because they will take the key matchups: Jenkins vs. Mawae, Jets outside linebackers vs. Titans tight ends, and the Jets' outside running game vs. Titans outside linebackers and defensive ends. I like Favre to outplay Collins, though the Jets will ask more of Favre in this game then the Titans will ask of Collins.
    The aspect of the game that could tip it to the Titans is if Johnson makes more big plays then Washington does.
     
  3. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2006
    Messages:
    19,492
    Likes Received:
    41
    Is it Sunday yet? I cannot wait for this game!

    Another key for the Jets on defense will be to get to Collins when they're passing. He's only been sacked 5 times all year. Young was sacked once, making a grand total of only 6 sacks given up on the season. Let's see if Sutton and Mangini can dial up some effective blitzes.

    FUCK YEAH
     
  4. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    24,478
    Likes Received:
    896
    They need to get Pace going again. He's been way too quiet lately.
     
  5. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2006
    Messages:
    19,492
    Likes Received:
    41
    It seems like he's been spending a lot more time in coverage since Harris went out. Another reason we need that beast back.
     
  6. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    ...yeah because he didn't score a touchdown against the Rams last Sunday or anything.
     
  7. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    24,478
    Likes Received:
    896
    Total impact play by Pace to be there to be in the right place when Elam hit Bulger to force that sack that forced the fumble that bounced perfectly into Pace's arms. You always make me laugh. Thanks
     
  8. CanadaGreen

    CanadaGreen New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2007
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    0
    I truly believe we can beat the Titans. We seem to elevate our play against the top teams so I expect this one to be real close but we will come out on top 27-21
     
  9. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    Wow. You don't think that was a impact play by Pace? Shame on him for being in the right place and the right time. He scored a touchdown...6 points.

    Don't thank him, thank gravity because the ball bounced right to him. He didn't make an excellent, heads up recovery, break a tackle, and return it 50 yards because the ball bounced to him. That was huge play started off by Elam and finished by Pace.

    Fans like you are jokes - you can never give a player credit, no matter what he does on the field.

    You always prove me right. Thanks.
     
  10. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Messages:
    22,432
    Likes Received:
    3
    I trust Casserly and everything he says. He is a great football mind.

    If he believes it, we should too.
     
  11. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    24,478
    Likes Received:
    896
    Way to go by pointing out the one play where he's shown up of late. Second of all he didn't even make the play, Elam did. He just happened to be there to scoop the ball up. He did a great job running down the field no doubt about it.

    I have given Pace plenty of credit in the past, but he has been pretty much invisible of late. If you dispute this please list out all of his impact plays over the last few weeks other than trying to act like an internet tough guy. Actually that's the only good quality you have. I actually enjoy a good laugh at your expense.

    I'll be waiting to see the list btw.
     
  12. titan122

    titan122 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2008
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    that was a good read, but he didnt even mention our de's kvb will be back at 100% along w/ big al next to him, favre better bring his a game cause he will be on the ground a whole bunch. good luck this sunday it should be one hell of a game.
     
  13. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    First off - saying that Elam and only Elam made the play is incredibly stupid. That's like saying that on the 3rd and long play in OT when Favre hit Keller for the first, that Favre was the only reason that it was converted into a first...when really Favre made a perfect throw...and Keller made a hell of an effort to pick up the first.

    Now for that list that you want oh so badly:

    The only game that Pace wasn't consistently effective in was the game at Buffalo when he only had 1 tackle.

    Against the Pats on Thursday he had 7 tackles.

    Against the Rams he had 3 tackles, half a sack, a fumble recovery, and that little touchdown we talked about earlier.

    Against the Chiefs he had 7 solo tackles...and a couple of them were in the backfield.

    In the loss to the Raiders, he had 4 solo tackles...and most of them were made behind the line of scrimmage.

    Sure he's only had half a sack in the last 5 games, but he's not really a pass rusher, like everyone here THOUGHT he was going to be - instead he's just an ALL-AROUND 3-4 'backer.

    To call him "invisible" isn't fair to what he's been doing for this defense. I give a lot of credit to Kris Jenkins for improving our run defense, but Pace is a big part of the success too.

    You can't expect a guy to come in and a have 2 sacks a game. Pace is rotating at almost every position in the linebacking corps and doing a damn good job at it.

    Murrell, you can't knock a player for scooping a fumble and returning it for a score - I've NEVER seen someone do that.
     
  14. Italian Seafood

    Italian Seafood New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Messages:
    12,545
    Likes Received:
    3
    Three words for you:

    Leon Freakin Washington

    :up:
     
  15. JetsLookingforDWare

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2007
    Messages:
    5,545
    Likes Received:
    0
    This is where I stopped reading.

    Why? Because I wanted to fire Schott over this. Thats so uncreative of him, he's such a vag playcaller. :up:

    I remember those days...all 3 weeks go lol.
     
  16. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    24,478
    Likes Received:
    896
    If Elam doesn't make the hit on Bulger Pace doesn't score. Here's the highlights of the game. At the :43 second mark is the play. Pace is blocked and isn't even putting any heat on Bulger and the ball pops right to him.

    Thru the first 5 games he had 23 solo tackles and 3.5 sacks. In the last 5 games he's had 17 solo tackles and .5 sacks. Yes, he's been invisible outside of picking up a forced fumble.

    He has had some effect on the defense, but it's totally fair to say he's been invisible.

    I've never said I expected him to have 2 sacks every game.

    I'm not knocking his part of that play. But what did he do that was significant in that play besides pick up the ball and run with it? He's been invisible. If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you. I like Pace, I just want to see more from him down the stretch.
     
  17. puddnhead

    puddnhead New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2008
    Messages:
    1,239
    Likes Received:
    0
  18. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    He SCORED a TOUCHDOWN - that's the best thing a defender can do. That's really all I can say.

    There's no point in telling you you're wrong...you'll never get it.

    Just because a guy doesn't make a HUGE play every game doesn't mean he's invisible. It's obvious you're just a casual fan, and you don't truly understand the game.
     
  19. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    24,478
    Likes Received:
    896
    Yeah, I think I get it a little bit more than you. Especially when you are saying he's been an impact on the defense late because he picked up a fumble and ran for a score because he happened to be in the area where the ball went. Had that ball not been blasted out of Bulger he never would have even gotten near the ball because he was completely blocked. But yes, I am the casual uninformed observer. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    No man...you don't get it. You expect this team to be full of over-achievers and superstars. Pace has been one of the best players on this defense all season, and if you can't see that...then you need to open your eyes.

    How many guys are on the field for the Jets' defense? 11.

    It's not just one guy - sure Elam crushed Bulger...but Pace broke the block, picked up the fumble, broke a tackle, and ran 50 yards for a TD.

    That's a huge play.
     

Share This Page