http://turnonthejets.com/2019/03/2019-post-free-agency-2-round-mock-draft/ by Clayton Smarslok This draft would never happen, but would be awesome if it did! I can't believe that Mac would ever have the stones to trade down twice in the first round and risk missing out on one of the top pass rushers, but in this mock he does. He trades down with Tampa Bay. Tampa gives the Jets their #5 pick, their second round pick, and a future 3rd round pick (2020?). Mac then trades down with Cincinnati receiving the Bengals' #11 pick, their second round pick, and their 2020 3rd round pick. Mac then takes Brian Burns with the #11 pick. With the 7th pick of the second round (the Bucs' pick), he takes Erik McCoy, C. With the 10th pick of the second round, Mac takes Dalton Risner, OL. 1 - Brian Burns 2a - Erik McCoy, C 2b - Dalton Risner, RT/OG/C That would give us our edge rusher, and two potential starters on the OL, which along with Osemele would go a long way towards protecting Sam provided that McCoy can start day one. I think there's a good chane that Risner would beat out one of Shell or Winters. Like Osemele, he has a bit of an aggressive, nasty attitude, which would totally change our OL play. Add their new LT and an OG in 2020, and they have a new, young OL (with the exception of Osemele) who can be here for much, if not all of Sam's tenure with the team. Assuming that both third round picks are in 2020, that would give the Jets some additional picks that they might need to help them get their future LT, or could use to add a WR, CB, TE, OG, or whatever they deem most necessary at the time. Other options at 2b would be Greg Little (OT), Rock Y-Sin (CB), Marquise Brown (WR), Amani Oruwariye (CB), and Irv Smith (TE).
Yeah, I read this earlier. It would be fantastic, but I don't think it's realistic. I could see however, Macc trading with TB, and this would allow him to get Burns almost certainly, and McCoy. He wold still have the 2 3rd rounders so could add quality with those as well. I'd be happy if that happened.
2good2b true! But would be awesome. Love seeing the talent we lost getting Sam given back to us and taking players of such high need! And we still get our pass rusher in the 1st round. Basically, all the pain that trading up for Sam would evaporate. MacCagnan would get the keys to the city for sure. DOIT!!!
I live Josh Allen but having Burns, McCoy and Risner (plus more picks) is way better. As Jets fans we know this won't happen and Mac will probably trade up for Q Williams.
A trade down with TB getting their 2nd and a future pick would be a major win, I’d be good with just that. The second trade down is icing on the cake. I wouldn’t complain about this draft at all but I’d probably rather go WR with 1st 2nd rd pick and then go with McCoy with the next one.
I don't think I could pass on Greg Little. That's ridiculous value. Shell and Winters are starters. If anything, we need to replace Beachum after this season first and foremost. Hollywood Brown is still there also. I like the trade scenario, but don't like that 2nd pick in the 2nd round.
I like the first trade down but not the second one. At #5 there is a good chance to still get Josh Allen.
i like the idea but i'm with you and cna't see it happening. not so much because mac, but why would TB want to trade up 2 spots and why would cincy want to trade up 6 spots? usually trade ups are more for teams taking a QB and i don't see either of those teams doing that. also the compensation is way too low from both. a 2nd and 4th to move up 2 spots (2020 3rd = 2019 4th) and cincy to move up 6 spots only gives up a 2nd and again a 4th.
I hear ya, but the way the centers go in that draft (and probably will the same way in the real deal in April), McCoy probably wouldn't be there, and if memory serves me correctly, neither would Jenkins.
You're right that teams don't move up as much for other positions as they do QBs or perhaps LTs, but GMs fall in love with players all the time. If they see a player with the skills/talent, speed, production they're looking for and that is a perfect fit for their D, they might be willing to give up a little to move up to insure they get him, especially if they think there's another team ahead of them or another team that's likely to trade up ahead of them and take that player. I think Smarzlok gives pretty good reasons why each of those teams would make the deal. Even if it is pretty unrealistic, it's kind of fun to dream about something like that happening for the Jets and helping balance the scales a little bit. The compensation may be a little low, but each draft is different. Teams aren't going to give up as much to trade for a position player as they would a QB, LT or maybe edge rusher. Since Mac has announced that the pick is for sale, he may be willing to accept less just to get a 2nd round pick this year and an additional pick next year. It would be nice to get more if Mac were to swing those exact trades, but to still get Burns, McCoy and Risner and two 3rd rounders next year just for the #3 pick is pretty darned incredible, especially if the three wind up being anywhere near as good as advertised. Right now, the 3rd next year is equal to just a 4th, but next year, it will look very different. Having an extra third round pick or two extra third round picks could be the difference between the Jets being able to move up to get the LT they want and not being able to. If the Jets are sitting where they need to in order to draft the LT they want, then they have an extra 3rd round pick or two that they could use to take a WR (next year there are supposed to be some very good WRs), an OG (it's supposedly a great year for OTs/OGs, or maybe even a RB to back up Bell (it's also supposed to be a great draft for RBs).
This hits the nail on the head for me. Sometimes people complain about trade scenarios being unrealistic, but it's fun to play around with, and as long as things don't get too outlandish I really enjoy the trade speculation. This year, I really hope we manage to trade down and pick up some extra picks. I'd love us to be able to get an o-lineman or two in the second round.
Realistically, IMO, one could argue that with so much defensive talent available across the first round, teams willing to trade up will be very few and will be focused solely on the search for that illusive QB. The Jets could potentially move all the way down to the middle of the first round, gain valuable picks, and still nail a great pass rusher/DL/ and for sure OL day one starters. The trick will be finding who to trade with and how much we get out of it. If the number one pick is a QB, then the value for the second QB trade might sky rocket. If the first two picks are not QBs, then the value of the third pick for the top QB might be rich in value as well. Who knows. Trading twice takes a lot of leverage and luck, and is a lot easier said that done. One good trade down and I will be extremely happy.
As others have mentioned, I am not sure I am in favor of Burns. Someone said he looked like Mingo and Maybin and I couldn't agree more with that sentiment. I think he is going to struggle to get off of blocks in the NFL.
I can certainly see why people would think of Maybin and Mingo. The key is whether he can at least retain his present weight, or add any more weight and strength without losing his speed, agility and bend. Maybin's nfl.com profile lists him as weighing 237, so that makes Burns 12 pounds heavier. Burns had better collegiate production than Bosa, and he forced 6 fumbles over the last 2 seasons. That's not an insignificant stat. He has the speed and agility to drop into coverage and be able to cover TEs and RBs. I like Burns a lot, but he might be better in a Barr-type 4-3 OLB role if he can prove that he can cover well. I really would love Allen, but Mac's not signing a C is really causing issues. We almost have to trade down unless he already has his eye on a veteran on another team that he thinks will wind up being a camp cut.
I saw he was listed at 250. I guess he just appears to be on the slender side considering he is 6ft 5 in tall. 250 is certainly nothing to sneeze at.
I disagree with ya on this. While I do like Little, Risner is one of my favorite Oline prospects this year. Love his game and his mentality behind it.
Hopefully its not an Arron Maybin thing where he bulked up for measurements but could not keep the weight on and be effective on the field.
And that is what I thought. He did NOT look to be 250 at FSU. Mingo played at 235 in the NFL. Too darn skinny for an EDGE. If we stay at 3, gimme one of those beasts that play at 260+ (Allen/Bosa)
