True Detective

I was going to post about this, but kept forgetting to track down the old True Detective thread because I'm pretty sure there is one (also a TV thread?). Season 3 acting was through the roof. I mean everyone. The only issue I had at times was that as great as Mahershala Ali was, sometimes I had to turn on closed captioning because he mumbled so much, lol.

I didn't watch the finale yet, have it taped, will watch tonight. Agree on Season 2, it was fckn atrocious. The acting was so bad I could barely sit through it. I bailed on a couple of episodes and then just watched the the last one. It really was that bad.

Back to Season 3, I thought the 'cameo' of Rust and Marty was pretty clever. And Scoot McNairy as Tom, wow ehat a great job. Poor Tom. I can't wait to finish it up, but my guess is that Hayes remembers far more and is less forgetful than he lets on at times. More PTSD from Vietnam than dementia, which is why I think he doesn't 'remember' why his daughter no longer speaks to him and doesn't speak about how his wife died. He's blocking it out. Thoughts on that? I still don't know how she died either because I haven't seen it yet but I can guess.

I also just finished up the season of 'Sharp Objects' with Amy Adams. Stellar job by her I gotta say, as well as by Patricia Clarkson. Geez Louise, what a bunch of psychos in that town. Highly recommend.

 

Me too, DVRed the finale will watch tonite or tomorrow night.

Yeah a really good follow up to Season 1 (got through 1.5 episodes of season 2 which was stupidly awful) and while it’s very good I still think the pairing of Matt M and Woody was better than Ali and Dorf.

Agree Ali is really hard to understand at times so I’ve had it on CC since the first episode (like all the British shows I watch). Dorf is a lot better than I usually give him credit for but I don’t think I’ve seen him in anything good since Blade.

Love Scoot McNairy. Saw him in a mini-series Godless a little while back. Great actor.

 

I don't know what an ehat is, but what I do know that I am the Typo Queen of the World!!! Leaving it. McNairy, I've heard of him before but I'd never seen him anything. He was great. I like how honest they are about racism, too. Dorff is a southern boy IRL, but I can guarantee you he doesn't have a racist bone in his body based on some of the things that I've read about him. I like how his nickname for Hayes is Purple (haha) and of course Hayes' isn't the least bit insulted. They're equals for sure.

Dorff was good as a kid in 'The Gate'. Fun horror movie. Josh Brolin, lol.

 

Dorf was in this one. I'm definitely going to need to watch it now, last Dorf I watched was Dorf on Golf

 

I loved Dorf’s comment to Scoot after Scoot apologized for calling Ali the N word.

Something along the lines of “he’s heard a lot worse by folks who really meant it”.

 

Godless was really good. Jeff Daniels was outstanding.

 

Yeah, it was pretty good. Not as good as S1 for me - I don't think the story was as compelling or the chemistry between the leads quite there - but it sure was a whole lot better than the shitfest that was S2.

 

Did anyone think the finale was a little bit of a letdown? I'll have to watch it again. I was cooking and looking at it at the same time, but was it me that they didn't say how when or why the wife died? Maybe they did . . . ?

 

Watching tonite.

 

Yup, total let down. Nothing nefarious, nothing totally sinister, a weak ending.

Reminiscent of the first season of The Missing.

INCREDIBLE show, taut, riveting storytelling.

Until the awful non-event finale.

Yeah and don’t like that we never find out how or when the wife dies.

 

^Feh. OK, so it wasn't me. I hate being strung along like that. Now I feel cheapshotted. And after all of that, where the F is Julie now? I'm not saying you have to tie up every string, but the death of Hayes' wife unanswered is a huge gaping hole. I also expected a deeper web of corruption. Color me annoyed, but at least it wasn't as bad as the POS ending of 'Dexter', which I completely lost interest in after the season with John Lithgow.

 

And who was she talking about on the phone call recording? Was she saying Tom wasn't her father?

I always thought that somehow one of the big bosses--they made it seem that the DA--was somehow involved. Definitely thought a deeper web of corruption and that it ended up happy happy joy joy was kind of a let down.

 

It was intimated that Will and Julie weren't his biological children. And when Tom goes, "Julie? What the hell?" in the Pink Room before he gets stun gunned and murdered, what's there? Julie? Her drawings? A torture cage? Her clothes? The dolls? Fck that finale. The more I think about it, the more I hate it now.

In one of the earlier episodes Hays is eating dinner with his son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren. Hays brings up his daughter and why she always stays in NY and won't come to visit him. Son gets agitated as if Hayes was responsible for their mother's death and that's why the daughter dropped contact, son leaves the table in a huff. What a shitty carrot to dangle.

That finale was like one of my favorite bad movies 'The Room'. Claudette: "Well, I got the results of the tests back. I definitely have breast cancer." We never hear about her breast cancer again.

EDIT: I know what happened to Julie, I missed it initially because I didn't re-watch it yet.

 

Yeah and one other thing--when Hayes discovers the body it was portrayed that someone left the dolls in strategic places either to lead someone to the body or as an occult thing.

Nope, the one eyed guy just accidentally dropped them there.

And no closure to Tom "commiting suicide" with the BS typed letter. We know it was Harris James but nothing is ever made of it? And Hoyt suggesting other more nefarious people are looking for Julie if Hayes keeps looking?

Nonesense.

 

The finale ruined the entire season. The more I think about it the worse it gets. I looked up how did Hays wife die just out of curiosity because in my mind it was a very integral part of the puzzle. Wanna hazard a guess? Pizzolatto said in an interview with Esquire . . . ready? THAT SHE DIED PEACEFULLY IN HER SLEEP IN 2013. Fck you, Nic Pizzolatto. He then goes on to say that there was no wedge between Hays and his daughter, they're just both bad at reaching out and communicating. What?! Then why did his son become clearly agitated and leave the dinner table when Hayes kept asking why doesn't she ever come see him. FCK YOU AGAIN.

So I guess Lucy Purcell really did just die of a regular run-of-the-mill drug overdose while we're at it. Some more fck you. If Hoyt was paying Lucy to have Julie play with Isabel why the fck didn't she say so? Who killed Dan O'Brien and why if it wasn't some kind of pedo ring? A boring drug deal gone bad? Uggghhhh. Seven episodes of great acting completely undone by a stupid lame ass lazy ending. F-.

 

Pretty sure Harris James killed Lucy when he flew to Vegas because she wanted more money? And Dan O’Brien because Lucy told him what was going on and he could spill?

I think?

 

That was the implication, but how much money had she actually been milking them for? She lived like trailer trash. I doubt that she could have afforded to fly to Vegas on her own, but given the rest of the piece of shitness hackneyed finale, it's just as likely that she died accidentally. Dan O'Brien, yeah, maybe Harris James, too; but Deus ex machina was a big fail IMO. Hiding in plain sight can work, but it didn't here.

 

Did you watch The Missing? Season 1? Very similar--a GREAT show, gut wrenching, up until the let down of a finale.

I'd still recommend it--was really very good with some great twist and turns.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3877200/episodes?season=1&ref_=tt_eps_sn_1