Troy Vincent requests to meet with suspended Patriots staffers

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  1. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    So here we go. I expect they're not going to be re-instated.

    They're beyond guilty.......

    Go to ESPN Mr. Deflator :)

    Troy Vincent requests to meet with suspended Patriots staffers
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    • By Ian Rapoport
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    • Published: Sept. 13, 2015 at 07:29 a.m.
    • Updated: Sept. 13, 2015 at 08:45 a.m.
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    The fallout from the New England Patriots' deflated ball controversy isn't over just yet.

    Tom Brady is free to play following Federal Court Judge Richard Berman's appeal ruling that nullified his four-game suspension. Meanwhile, the Patriots' organization will feel the brunt of its NFL-issued sanctions come draft week.

    But the NFL might not be done administering discipline related to the incident.

    According to sources informed of the situation, Troy Vincent, NFL Executive VP of Football Operations, has formally requested to meet with Patriots equipment staffer John Jastremski and locker room attendant Jim McNally before either is reinstated by the franchise.

    Both face discipline for their role in the apparent deflation of footballs, sources said.

    The Patriots made a written request for their reinstatement last week. The league made a public acknowledgment of it four days ago and said it is reviewing the request. The two employees were suspended indefinitely in May, and the NFL said they'd have to be reinstated by Vincent. Sources now say that reinstatement would have to include a face-to-face meeting with Vincent.

    The goal would not be re-investigate the situation around the deflated footballs or begin another back-and-forth about what did or did not happen. This case won't be re-examined.

    Both men were cited in the Wells report as being involved in wrongdoing, and league officials believe these two men should be accountable, as well. Their texts and appearance on surveillance video were prominent in the Wells report.
    For McNally, a part-time employee who works on game days, a suspension during the offseason would not force him to miss time from his job as a game-day staffer, for instance. This is similar to the situation surrounding the Falcons, where the NFL suspended Roddy White, the Falcons' director of event marketing, for the first eight weeks of the season for pumping in fake crowd noise. He was fired by the team, instead.

    While the team has their penalties, Brady's suspension was nullified based on failures in the process (his conduct was not addressed in Berman's ruling). Discipline might now await McNally and Jastremski for violations that were unveiled in the Wells report.
     
  2. langdon1975

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    Both of them will be reinstated "soon", by Ben Volin. (@benvolin if you wanna find his twitter).

    What were they guilty of, exactly? The imaginary deflation conspiracy that never happened? That same conspiracy where the only evidence was a 6 month old text discussing overinflated footballs at a Jets home game?

    Once more: there was no deflation. Anyone who passed 6th grade science (if you still have science in your amazing school system) would understand that much. Unfortunately most of the people who worked for Wells report didn't know what ideal gas law was. No biggie, it was still worth 5 million dollars.

    BTW, Roger "Pinocchio" Goodell said that the NFL didn't suspend the staff members. Then why do the Patriots have to ask for the league to reinstate them? If it was only Pats, can't they just give them their job back? I know, logic. NFL is telling the truth, Pats are liars and cheats. Even though NFL has lied for 7 months straight (and it's not the first time either). Being stupid is no way to go through life, but I guess we can blame that on the school system also.
     
  3. BrowningNagle

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    thats enough, seriously
     
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    This is the part that makes no sense to me. If you're going to lie, at least make it believable. Right, Tom?
     
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    Patriots employees won’t face additional discipline from NFL

    By Ben Volin Globe Staff September 14, 2015
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    John Jastremski outside CMGI field in 2001.

    The Patriots’ suspension of Deflategate employees John Jastremski and Jim McNally was enough for the NFL.

    A league source confirmed Monday morning the NFL won’t give any further discipline to Jastremski and McNally, the two Patriots employees accused by the league of intentionally deflating footballs before the AFC Championship Game in January, which ultimately led to a lengthy investigation and the loss of a first-round draft pick for the Patriots.

    The two employees are to meet with NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent in the coming days to discuss their role with the Patriots going forward, with a Patriots representative in attendance.

    As part of their punishment, neither will be allowed to have a role in the preparation, handling or supervision of game balls, and McNally will be barred from serving as the officials’ locker room attendant, a role he has performed for many years.

    The Patriots suspended the two employees in May – Jastremski as an assistant equipment manager, McNally as a gameday-only employee – but they cannot be reinstated without Vincent’s approval.

    Follow Ben Volin on Twitter at @BenVolin.
     
  6. New England Patriots

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    Again, can you tell me how this makes any sense?
     
  7. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    Forgetting that the NFL told the Pats to suspend them. But again, Uncle Rog is talking out of his ass. I mean how much longer can the head of the whole league lie on every single thing related to deflategate? "Yeah we didn't suspend them, Pats did. But Pats have to ask to reinstate them." I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. Down is up and up is down, only in Roger's world.

    And it's allegedly deflating footballs, which is something that hasn't been proven anywhere.
     
  9. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Isn't there a Steelers forum you can dump in?
     
  10. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    Guess we have to revist the 2 guys testimony, i know all you pats fans will regress it out of your minds like a bad dream.

    V.
    NFL Security Interviews McNally A.
    Shortly after the AFC Championship Game ended, and following the post-game pressure measurements described above, members of NFL Security began to consider steps to further investigate the issues that had arisen during the game. Richard Farley suggested that NFL Security interview McNally because he was believed to be the last person with possession of the game balls before they were distributed to the ball boys. NFL Director of Investigations John Raucci approached McNally and asked to schedule time to speak the following day, Monday, January 19. McNally responded that he would be unavailable because he was employed full-time, lived in New Hampshire and would not be back at Gillette Stadium until August 2015 for the first pre-season game. Following further discussion, McNally agreed to be interviewed that night. Raucci, Farley and Dan Grossi decided that Farley should not participate in the interview because McNally and Farley had been friendly for many years. Raucci and Grossi then interviewed McNally in the Officials Locker Room for approximately thirty to forty-five minutes.
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    Among other things, and as set forth in an NFL Security interview report, McNally told Raucci and Grossi that he was uncertain about why he decided to take the game balls to the field when he did or without an escort. According to the report, McNally stated that he walked directly to the field and that nothing unusual occurred during the walk from the locker room to the field. McNally also stated that he knows that Brady prefers game balls inflated to

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    John Raucc
    i joined the NFL as Director of Investigations in 2012 after a distinguished twenty-five year career

    with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) during which he served as, among other things, Assistant
    Director, Special Agent in Charge of an FBI Field Office and Section Chief of Security Operations in the Security Division at FBI Headquarters. Dan Grossi joined the NFL as Director of Event Security in 2011 following a twenty-three year career with the Tampa (Florida) Police Department where he worked as a sergeant and detective



    12.5 psi, because Brady personally told McNally of his preference. In addition, McNally told Raucci and Grossi that he had never heard anyone even joke about deflating game balls. When interviewed in February 2015 by the Paul, Weiss team, McNally denied that he made any of these statements during the interview with Raucci and Grossi, and stated that any report of the interview that included such statements was incorrect and inaccurate. McNally claimed that the primary topic discussed during the interview was the role of the Patriots ball boys. In separate interviews with us, Raucci and Grossi each confirmed the accuracy of the statements attributed to McNally in the report of the interview. We do not credit McNally's claim that he did not make the statements and we fully credit the recollections of Raucci and Grossi.

    McNally Speaks with Schoenfeld and Jastremski B.
    Around 11:45 p.m., after being interviewed by Raucci and Grossi, McNally spoke briefly with Patriots Equipment Manager Dave Schoenfeld in Schoenfeld's office. McNally told Schoenfeld that he had spoken with NFL representatives and that they would be contacting Schoenfeld as well. McNally claimed that he did not tell Schoenfeld what had been discussed during his interview. Schoenfeld recalls that McNally told him that he had been questioned about his knowledge of or involvement in issues concerning the inflation of Patriots game balls. Schoenfeld also recalls that McNally told him that he had nothing to do with the inflation or deflation of Patriots game balls and had no idea why the issue had been raised. McNally left Gillette Stadium shortly after his conversation with Schoenfeld and drove to his home in New Hampshire, a trip that takes approximately 90 minutes. Based on data extracted from Jastremski's phone, during McNally's drive home, at 12:15 a.m., McNally called Jastremski and had a telephone conversation that lasted 30 minutes and 50 seconds. Following that phone call, Jastremski exchanged text messages with Brenden Murphy, who had learnedfrom McNally that his name had been given to NFL Security. Jastremski then called McNally at 12:57 a.m. and had a call lasting 37 seconds. McNally called Jastremski again at 1:06 a.m. and had another call that lasted 5 minutes and 44 seconds. When asked about these phone calls, both McNally and Jastremski said that McNally had called to congratulate Jastremski on the Patriots victory. McNally said that he did not recall anything further about what they discussed, including whether he told Jastremski about his meeting with NFL Security. Jastremski told us that McNally mentioned that he had spoken with NFL personnel for thirty minutes. According to Jastremski, McNally explained that the conversation partly concerned the inflation level of footballs and that NFL Security personnel had also asked about the Patriots ball boys.
     
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    VI. Communications Following the AFC Championship Game

    John Jastremski's cell phone records reflect that he stayed in close contact with both McNally and Brady in the days following the AFC Championship Game. All three claimed during their interviews with us that their communications did not involve (or only briefly touched on) the deflation issues. The sequence, length and timing of the conversations and text message exchanges raise questions concerning the plausibility of these claims.


    A. January 19, 2015

    Jastremski and Brady spoke to each other on the telephone four times on January 19, for a total of 25 minutes and 2 seconds. They also exchanged a total of twelve text messages. Jastremski and McNally spoke to each other on the telephone five times after 7:00 a.m. on January 19, for a total of 57 minutes and 59 seconds. McNally also sent Jastremski a text message that day.

    1. Jastremski Learns of Early Media Reports and Contacts Brady
    Based on his cell phone records, at 7:04 a.m. on January 19, Jastremski visited the NBC Sports Pro Football Talk website and accessed the story that had been posted at 2:19 a.m.
    concerning the NFL‟s investigation of thedeflation issue. Although Jastremski did not recall reading the story, he stated that he visited the website often and that his fiancée had mentioned that morning that she had heard about the allegations on either television or the radio. At 7:25 a.m., after exchanging text messages with Dave Schoenfeld, Jastremski sent Brady a text message asking Brady to call him:

    01/19/2015 07:25:18 EST John Jastremski (508) 958-xxxx
    Tom Brady 2 (63) (917) 704-xxxx Call me when you get a second


    Brady called Jastremski less than a minute later, and they spoke for 13 minutes and 4 seconds. Although Jastremski told NFL Security investigators on January 20, 2015
    — the day after this phone call with Brady that he had not discussed the deflation issue with anyone other than McNally, Jastremski acknowledged during his February interview with Paul, Weiss that he discussed the issue with Brady during this call. Jastremski also said that this was probably the only conversation he had with Brady, by phone or in-person, concerning the deflation issue.

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    Jastremski confirmed that “TomBrady2” is the contact name listed in his phone‟s address book for Patriots quarterback Tom Brady. Brady also confirmed the accuracy of his cell phone number in Jastremski‟s cell phone data.


    According to Jastremski, his conversation with Brady on the morning of January 19 was not overly serious. Jastremski recalls that he was curious about the story because he is the individual most responsible for making Patriots footballs. He also explained during his interview that he used the conversation as an opportunity for semi-busting [Bradys] chops about Brady's WEEI radio interview that morning, although Jastremski later said that he had not listened to Brady's interview and only heard about it after their conversation. Jastremski said that McNally's name did not come up during the conversation. Brady recalls speaking with Jastremski on the morning of January 19, but did not remember any specifics of what was discussed beyond that they were trying to figure out the extent of the media coverage and the facts relating to the allegations against the Patriots. He does not recall what Jastremski told him about what he knew. The communications between Jastremski and Brady on January 19 appear to be their first cell phone-based communications (phone conversations or text messages) in six months.
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    Jastremski Calls McNally after Brady 2.
    Less than six minutes after Jastremski finished his telephone conversation with Brady, he called McNally at 7:45 a.m. on January 19. This call between McNally and Jastremski lasted 9 minutes and 12 seconds. Jastremski described this conversation as similar to his call with Brady, stating it was more tied to his curiosity about what the heck is going on.

    Jastremski recalls McNally again describing his late night interview with NFL Security and mentioning how it had required him to stay at the stadium a lot longer than he expected after the AFC Championship Game. Jastremski recalls telling McNally that he had spoken to Brady

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    The most recent previous text message exchange between Jastremski and Brady retrieved from Jastremski‟s cell phone occurred on July 4, 2014 and Jastremski‟s call log, which captured telephone calls between Jastremski and others dating back to August 2014, did not include any earlier calls with Brady. As previously noted, Brady declined to make his cell phone records available for our review. When interviewed, Jastremski was not sure if he had communicated by phone or text with Brady between July 2014 and December 2014, and estimated that at most they had done so fewer than three times. Brady did not recall if he had communicated by phone or text message with Jastremski in 2014.

    and the texts and the broken ball protocol.......they guilty and they hid their asses from shame. All fits the prototypical lying and covert cover up

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  13. Burning Elvii

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    you first nakamotosan
     
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    Why do you have so much hate for the guy that gave your team a slap on the wrist and destroyed the evidence when they were caught cheating?
     
  15. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    Put me on ignore then
     
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    Langdouche thinks that if he comes here and continues to repeat "there was no deflation" that maybe we'll eventually believe him and give him and his team the validation he craves.

    You'll notice Langdouche only shows up here every 31 days, he takes stops at every other team's board for a day trying to convince THEM.

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    Not for nothing, but I believe it was you who threw around the term cognitive dissonance earlier (apologies if I'm wrong). But I can't help but laugh at this line you love you use regarding "validation".

    It makes sense to you that a Pats fan would go to a Jet's message board in search of "validation"? And that is expected to be attained how exactly? And even better, at the same time you have this Steelers fan in here that probably spends the better part of his afternoon cutting himself and posts some of the wackiest shit I've ever read, with what seems to be a pretty fair following ready to either validate his crazy shit or maybe have his crazy shit validate their slightly less than crazy shit.

    I dunno, it just seems stupid to me that you keep repeating that over and over and that on it's face it makes not even a little bit of sense.
     
  18. JStokes

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    Poor Steve.

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  19. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    Lots of fans are in denial, so they crave the validation on every outpost of the internet.....some of them are paid propagandists by Chivas Bob himself.

    Others are simply embarrased and you don't hear from those folks.
     
  20. BrowningNagle

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    quite ironic that you, of all people, a steelers fan on a Jets website that seriously will not give it up, would talk about "crav[ing] the validation on every outpost of the internet"

    what's next a bandwagon steeler fan like yourself calling pats fan bandwagon fans?

    you are worse than the pats trolls. I would be okay with all you packing up your shit and heading back under your bridges immediately.

    also big ben is a rapist bitch
     

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