Travis Frederick Retires

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  1. HerndonFan

    HerndonFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    Another player walks away from the game at a young age.
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Definitely young but he also was diagnosed with that immune disease last year or two years ago that came out of nowhere for him. Surprising but it's not a Chris Borland where he decided to be a hero of the anti concussion movement.
     
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    Good thing we signed McGovern before this happened
     
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    Isn't this the guy reports said the Jets asked Dallas for when they asked about Jamal Adams? Dallas said no.
     
  5. Martin&theJETS

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    I think it was both him and Tyron Smith. But it was either one and a 1st for Jamal.
     
  6. Br4d

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    29 is a realistic retirement age at this point for any position but QB and WR. People definitely can play on past that point if they're paid very well to do it but most probably should just retire on the proceeds of their second contract. The health consequences are greater as you age and are less able to protect yourself on the playing field. QB's get mostly protected by the officials and WR's don't take a lot of hard hits.
     
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    O line generally last until mid to late 30s. Normally longer than wideouts. Frederick had non football health issues. He has made millions and probably had a degree and after football job. He quit while he was ahead. Not a bad thing. But o line can usually last well into their 30s.
     
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    Lots of positions can last into their 30's. The question is whether the health risks are worth it. OL takes as much punishment as any position out there. Is the money worth it on the 3rd deal when you are going to be hurting for the rest of your life as a result?

    When D'Brick retired at 32 he still had his health, which was all that mattered to him in the decision. Mangold got beat up pretty badly the following season and wound up retiring off of it. He probably would have been better off following D'Brick's lead and retiring after 2015. In truth Mangold probably should have retired after 2014. He had been getting beat up pretty badly for a couple of seasons at that point.

    The players who are retiring earlier now tend to be people who got a good contract and played it out and still had their health. A lot of them have chronic issues already, like multiple concussions making them easy to concuss, however some of them just see the hand-writing on the wall and get out while the getting is good.
     
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    Just another reason why you can't have the "forever rebuild" mentality in this day of NFL. The league is just not built to plan on having continuity in position groups for 5+ years. Between this and the unpredictable free agency environment, you might have 3 solid years to put an entire team together to make a run. After that window, your stars are thinking about fat contracts that limit your options and your stalwart players might already be on downside of their careers. This is exactly what happened to us during end of Rex years and early Bowles years....particularly with Oline
     
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    Couple all that with our drafting woes and it explain the last decade of jets football. You cannot just focus on dline for 10 year. Have to keep refreshing all position groups. That's why team like Baltimore who consistently draft well and get comp picks yearly stay competitive.
     
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    Exactly!

    It does look like JD gets the concept: Add solid/adequate level starters in FA to fill out the depth chart and then save big money for your future draft picks who should grow to be the best homegrown talent on the team. This is how Baltimore, Pitt, NE, KC, Philly have all done it and why they are in the talk for playoffs most years.

    You only add big vet additions if you feel you are 1-2 players away schematically: NE does this a lot (Moss, Revis, Corey Dillion, Rodney Harrison, Ted Washington etc.) But they always have an enormous pipeline of homegrown talent that creates their foundation.
     
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    Kicker and punter say hi. ;)
     
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    I think they're crazy to 'retire' at that age. JMO

    I think they forget how blessed they are to be able to play in the NFL. Very few people ever get that opportunity and they have such a small window to do it at their highest level.

    I can relate more to a guy like Brady taking it as far as he can take it. When he's done he'll have no regrets.

    I'm sure he feels he has good reasons but I don't understand it. Even the minimum NFL salary is crazy money for most people but it's not just the money to compete in the NFL, on that stage to give all that up I don't understand it.

    And this stuff about health consequences later in life gimme a frickin' break. We're all gonna die someday and health, life is so unpredictable.
     
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    Good thing Dallas said no.

    Imagine if Dallas had said yes and Frederick had pulled this on the Jets. A guy I don't think loved what he did for Adams a guy that undoubtedly LOVES what he does.

    What a disaster that'd have been.
     
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    One more season of play to ensure their grand kids grand kids never have to pay for an education. Worth it to me.
     
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    If you want to.make the argument you're making for Chris Borland, then I think it's reasonable.

    Frederick has an estimated net worth it approximately $55 million. He's made the Pro Bowl five times and is a one time All-Pro. He almost had his entire life wrecked by an immunodeficiency disease while living in a world that has a virus killing people that are afflicted by diseases such as he has.

    It's completely reasonable that he wants to walk away with his health and invest his money correctly rather than end up like Mike Webster or Junior Seau.
     
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