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  1. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I get that, I was replying to Ralebird with regards to historical data that can be used by all parties to figure out what is the best decision to make moving forward.

    You would think that by this point in time there would be a solution put into place.
     
  2. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    the league needs a rule that limits any one player's cap hit to be no more than 10% of the cap.
    otherwise, you are going to see a ton of teams with a huge starting qb cap hit, with little team depth of talent behind it.
    the colts after manning was injured and the jets after chad's contract are prime examples.
     
  3. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    I'd bet the players union fights that one tooth and nail
     
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  4. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    The league does not need more rules to protect them form themselves. They need a franchise exemption that would keep one contract off the cap.
     
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  5. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    I give it a week....

    The kid gets signed, sealed and delivered

    Fast forward to reg season>>>After QW puts Brady on his back I won't care what happened 7/20/19..will you?
     
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  6. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Then there is no cap.
     
  7. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    I like having rookie deals set in stone. It really DOES save owners from themselves, and keeps a lot of cash available to pay vets.
     
  8. Biggs

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    It hasn't worked out for vets. It's worked out for a handful of star players. The rookie wage scale is a huge incentive to replace vets on the cheap. Teams are still cap heavy at the top and they offset it by cutting solid starters and replacing them with cheap rookies who have to learn the game. The median salary in the NFL is under 1 million per year. They are the lowest paid professionals in any major US sport by miles.
     
  9. TurkJetFan

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    For everyone over analyzing quinnen not being signed.

    You realize 4 of the top 8 picks aren’t signed yet right
     
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  10. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    You can’t just throw that “lowest paid professionals” statement without context. NFL teams have the largest rosters by a long shot ( 53 vs 25 for baseball, 20 for hockey, 12 for hoops) and by far the fewest games (16 vs 82 for hockey/hoops, 162 for baseball). Rookie contract negotiations were a joke before the rookie wage scale. Why should a player who hasn’t played a down come in as the highest paid player? I hate hold outs. Make the contracts standard and remove the incentive for the opportunistic agents to find an issue to make a name for themselves. Hold outs are futile gestures that help nobody.
     
  11. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    The nba does it
     
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  12. TonyFtLaud

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    Also the NFL has its practice squad players figured into that figure and only plays 16 games. 1/10 the games played by MLB and under 1/4 of the games played by the NBA.
    Factor in other leagues developmental players and their salaries plumet just as the NFLs rises to around $2.5 million for the 53 man roster.
     
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  13. BroadwayZach

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    The Giants probably want a do over.
     
  14. LF911SC

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    For their draft or for hiring Gettleman?
     
  15. Sam Hammer

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    I definitely agree with this. I just feel the offset language should be part of the package, so that rookies aren't missing days of training camp every year. Make it so the rookie contracts are set in stone in every way.
     
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  16. Ralebird

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    "Set in stone" might be a bit severe. Players should be permitted to defer payments if they desire, even for longer periods than their contracts cover but cap hits should be prorated only during the contract period. Compensation between teams needs to be standardized and the player need not have input into those decisions.
     
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  17. GQMartin

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    Haven't decided on Saturday yet, but I will definitely be in attendance on Sunday. Disappointed Q most likely will not be there.

    Hope to see some of you there.

    @Brook! You going?
     
  18. Footballgod214

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    Good info. Then maybe we need 'max contracts' like the NBA, only make them around $10M/yr. I guess I'd rather have all team members making between $3M and $10M than 2 players making +$20M and the rest making change.

    But I guess that would make it hard for a team like the Jets to lure top players in FA.
     
  19. BroadwayZach

    BroadwayZach Well-Known Member

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    Yes
     
  20. Brook!

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    I can only go either this Saturday or next. Let’s go together again. Let me know what you decide.
     

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