So while browsing the umpteenth "omg we extended Sanchez we're doomed" type thread and smoking a bowl I got the idea for a new thread. If we're going to trade down, who do you take in the first 2 rounds and why? My premise is simple. Ignore the potential FA where we go and grab 4 or 5 no name starters and stick them in positions of need (S, OLB, WR, etc). I want to know about only Free Agency scenarios where we signed one certain guy (and a vet minimum type 2nd FA or whatever we can afford leftover), or a scenario where we get 2 solid FA's. The idea is everyone says we can't go after a Carl Nicks or whoever else because we need depth. So here is depth. You're GM from tomorrow to the end of the draft. Who do you pick up in Free Agency, and where do you trade down into in the draft? Who do you then draft to complement the Free Agents and address as many or all of the depth issues that we have? Time to get creative.
If the Jets trade down in the 1st there are a lot of good targets for them. LB - Dont'a Hightower, Andre Branch, Nick Perry DE - Fletcher Cox DT - Dontari Poe OG - Cordy Glenn OT - Jonathan Martin WR - Reuben Randle S - Mark Barron This is a deep draft that has a lot of players the Jets could use at this point. They should sit at the 16 and make sure nobody they really want is falling to them and then they should trade down, maybe more than once. They'll get value in the middle rounds out of doing that and they're still going to get a heckuva player who fits a need also and he'll likely be nearly the BPA at their pick.
I agee there may be good players by trading down but Mike T is a quality over quantity guy. I believe if you have to go up and get your guy, have the conviction to do it. No guts, no glory.
Quality over quantity has lead us to no cap room and no depth. This is the year to go with trading down and stock piling with a draft that is loaded with talent.
In a trade down scenario, I would probably look to trade down to the 20-26 range while picking up a 2nd in the process. 1st round targets would include- Donta Hightower Nick Perry Cordy Glenn Andre Branch Whitney Mercilus Alshon Jeffery Pick 47- Doug Martin Kelechi Osemele Targets for the 2nd round we picked up- Trumaine Johnson Mark Barron Harrison Smith Vinny Curry Juron Criner
If the jets traded down and picked up an earlier second, they should consider themselves lucky if Barron is around.
I think that the Eagles would be a good trade partner. Trade #16 for Eagles #46, #51, #77 I know many people wouldn't like this move, but I think it makes sense. #46 -- Doug Martin #47 -- Vinny Curry #51 -- Trumaine Johnson #77 -- Juron Criner (or Gerrell Robinson) #78 -- Ryan Broyles or Nate Potter
I wouldn't want to trade out of the 1st round. Not with the topend talent that's available this season. Getting Hightower on the 19 or 20 plus more picks would be great. Getting Barron on the 28 plus more picks would be great. Trading out of the 1st round would start to feel like the 2005 scenario and that definitely was not great.
I'd venture to say we have about 5 mill left after Pouha minus putting money aside for the rooks. I'd like to sign Lowery from the Jags and Braylon, which on the surface seems like just nostalgia signings. That may be right, but it sucks that we spent only a fourth round pick on a guy that I think should be the starter on this team right now and we let him walk in Lowery. He still has good upside and is only 26, and has remained relatively healthy. Hopefully there is some kind of incentive for him to play here i.e. liking Rex, wanting to win, familiar surroundings, etc. I think Braylon can return and be that split end opposite Holmes and Keller to pull safeties away. This will help the run game because the safeties have to acknowledge a more complete passing attack. Not to mention he is a good down-field blocker. He's familiar with NY and Rex, and seemed to like his time here before we shat on him during last offseason. Hopefully, he recognizes his age's first digit is about to begin with three and he can't get in any more trouble. It's hard to tell what is going on with the offensive line right now. They guaranteed Hunter's contract a month ago and now are shopping him for a trade. I can't believe the team wants the O-Line to be a liability again after seeing it be a strength and a big reason we got to back to back AFCCGs. Also can't believe they see Ducasse as the solution. Maybe they are actually confident because of the switch to man blocking, but that is folly in my opinion. Maybe we trade with the draft pick rich Rams out of 16 and into (rd 2) 33 and (rd 3) 66, and some more filler later on or next year. Could be they love an offensive lineman or maybe even T. Rich, reports are they are interested at #6. (2-STL)33: Nick Perry, DE/OLB USC or Vinny Curry, DE/OLB Marshall (2 Original)47: Kelechi Osmele, G/T Iowa State or Doug Martin, RB Boise St. (3-STL)66: Marvin McNutt WR, Iowa or Tommy Streeter, WR Miami or Zebrie Sanders, OT, FSU (3-NYJ)78: Trumaine Johnson, converted Safety Montana I'm not gonna pretend like I did any work on my own. I've stolen most ideas from people on here tossing ideas around or from draft niks presenting their own ideas. But, I think this would be a nice offseason, getting help at many of the places it appears we 'need' at this point.
I still prefer trading up to trading down. However, I cant see us trading up unless it was for either Martin or Reiff I dont know who else we would trade up for (Richardson would have to fall to us, and that could happen) Its foolish to trade either up or down unless you are 1000% sure you know who you want. You dont want to make a move until you absolutely have to
I dont think Martin or Reiff are can’t miss prospects that we should trade up for. The only player we should trade up for is Richardson, and even then its questionable.
me thinks we will have an opportunity to trade down in R1 - going after perry with our 1st pick. i then think we will go higher in R2 and look at either barron or osmele.... we could be left with another 2nd or 3rd rounder and with that i would go curry or WR. but there is probably no way we trade down if dicastro or ingram are there - unless absolutely bowled over by an offer - but u probably have to stay and take either 1 of those guys.
I thought the lack of cap room was giving Holmes QB money, having two of the top paid OLinemen in the game, paying Sanches top ten QB money, giving big money to Harris and having three very highly paid CBs.
Trade down scenario would be cool. We could address LB, RT, and go either, RB-WR-Safety Jonathan Martin could fill a huge hole for us.
Really can't see us trading down. It's a miracle that we have all of our picks going into the draft to begin with, and it seems inevitable that there will be some serious talent available at #16. My prediction is that we use future picks and maybe a 3rd or 4th this year to get an early second rounder (on top of #48) Something along the lines of Floyd/Decastro/Richardson, Branch/Curry/Barron, and H. Smith/Potter/Martin would be outstanding IMO. The bottom line is that we have multiple holes to fill, and this is a strong draft in our areas of need. Tanny will not sit back and wait. If he wants extra picks he'll get them without trading back.
I would trade down because I think we need impact players at multiple positions. My hope is that Tannehill drops to our pick, and someone wants to come down and get him. The Jets need more than one offensive lineman, a wide receiver, and linebackers. The more of those things we can get in the first three rounds, the better. -X-
It's all going to depend on the QB carousel. Best case scenario to me is trade down to Cleveland at 22 who are looking at a hopefully still available Tannenhill, pick up an extra 3rd and take Hightower round 1.
The only problem with this scenario is that I don't see any teams even considering picking Tannehill between 17-21. Assuming the Broncos sign Peyton, they might be looking to trade up to 16 if they like a WR that's available. SD, CHI, TEN, and CLE all need wide receivers, so I think that if Floyd (or even Wright) is there at 16 we can get some good value in return. Teams will be fighting to move up at that point. EDIT- Hypothetically, if teams were competing to move up to 16, someone like Denver might give us their 1st and 2nd, which would be about 50 points more (1050) than the value of our pick (1000). Definitely not out of the question. This would leave us with picks at 25, 48, and 57 I believe.
