As a fan in the camp that believes that the Jets must come out of this draft with both a premier edge and a premier WR, it strikes me that trading down from 10 might put this in jeopardy. For example, I was enjoying the idea of picking up future picks, say by trading down with Pittsburgh from 10 to 20. But this mock projects that 5 WR's (Wilson, London, Williams, Burks, Olive) will be drafted between 10 and 19: Trenton Corn's NFL Mock Draft 5.0 With Trades - NFL Draft Hub I realize that some of the best WR's are picked later than top 10. I just want to improve the odds of getting a top, dominating WR in this draft, and I don't want the Jets again left to pick from sloppy seconds (which is what Mims is turning out to be).
I'd love to get an extra 2nd this year and next year or even another 1st for 2023. But, it takes two to tango. Is there a team willing to move up to 10? We'll find out in a few weeks.
JD got cute trading back in round 2 and settled for Mims who wasn't a polished route runner, hated the pick. I have no proof, I believe Gase had a huge influence in drafting Mims. IMO, the Jets need to get a premier WR at # 10 or acquire one with a trade with Seattle or Tennessee, doubt San Fran will let Deebo go, waiting till Rd 2 is very risky to get a wide out. There are numerous teams in later round one that could / would draft a Wide out.....KC, GB, maybe Seattle and even the Jags at the top of round 2.
Once you start getting into that 8-10 range, it becomes a lot more feasible for team to trade up, especially for a non-QB. Due to how much weaker the QB class is, I doubt there's that home run deal out there like the Giants were able to make with the Bears. I do think there are opportunities to trade down from 10 to the 10-16 range and still pick up a Burks, Olave or Jameson Williams. Ironically, more often than not, the 10 pick has been traded Recent examples 2021: Cowboys traded 10 to the Eagles for 12 and 84 (D'Vonta Smith) 2019: Broncos traded 10 to the Steelers for 20, 52 and 83 (Devin Bush) 2018: Raiders traded 10 to the Cardinals for 15, 79 and 152 (Josh Rosen) 2017: Bills traded 10 to the Chiefs for 27, 91 and a 2018 #1 (Patrick Mahomes)
Yeah, I think part of Mims troubles has been an inability to function well in LaFleur's system. He seemed to do better in Gase's system. You and some others were wise to focus on the route running issues, while amateurs like me focused on the athletic testing and were happy with the trade down and pick! In any case, unsuitability for the system won't be the case this year. The Jets might well have first pick at 10 of any of the receivers in the 2022 draft. My guess is that at least one of them will turn out to be an All-Pro. Let's increase the odds of getting that guy by taking our best guess at pick 10.
If you want to improve your odds of getting a top player, having a scouting dpt and CS who work well together is more important than having an early pick.
It is definitely a possibility that in trading down we could miss out on the topflight WR we want. That could also happen taking Gardner at #4 or #10. I like Watson's potential, but the more I think about it, it could be scary taking him in the 1st round. He could be gone by #35, however, as could Pickens and Dotson. Then where would we be? Atlanta could take a WR at #8. It's possible that we could trade down no more than 4-5 spots, and still get one of the 5 WRs you listed, but it might not be the one the Jets wanted, or they might like that one at all or think he's a good scheme fit.
I would make that the best WR available, rather than BPA. Taking a CB, C, DT would have the same negative effect on the WR pool. We wouldn't have another pick until #35 unless we traded up, and that would be a mistake. There is a glaring need at Edge and WR. Do the right thing and stay put and take the two you like best.
I’d trade back from 4 inside the top 10 but I wouldn’t trade out of 10 all the way back to 20. We need playmakers. I think take KT at 4 if he’s there. If not trade back to 8 or 9 and grab JJ then Burks at 10.
I like Wilson but he’s similar to Moore. I want a different flavour WR that can dominate with size, strength and speed. Then use Moore as our route running technician, Berrios in the slot and Davis as the red zone threat.
Don’t look at it how you would build it, look at it how mlf wants to build it. They seem to want a lot of polished route runners with speed and quickness. Players that are interchangeable, can run every route from every position.
Yes, Burks fits that mold as he ran every route in the tree. Is he a polished route runner? Probably not. Can he run good routes all over the field? Absolutely. I think he is exactly the type of playmaker MLF wants.
I think you're probably right about what MLF wants, but if so, I think he's dumb in that regard. He also has said that they want receivers with different traits and that in game-specific situations or against certain opponents that players would be rotated or switched. I think that's the wiser course. If all of one's WRs are the same or have very similar physical traits, that limits the offense, and makes it easier on the D. I think it wiser to have a WR corps with a variety of skills, traits, abilities, and sizes. In that way one should be able to succeed regardless of the type of defense or the skill of the DBs one is playing against. There will always be some mismatch, some way in which one can take advantage or force one's will upon the opposing D. With all WRs on the smaller side then a D with bigger DBs can knock them off their routes and have physical mismatches against the WRs. It also can cause the Jets to not take a great WR prospect if he doesn't fit the profile that MLF is looking for. IMO that would be dumb as well. I firmly believe that they may have ruined Mims last year, destroying his confidence or his desire to play for the Jets. With wiser handling and use, creating a package of plays for him where he could contribute immediately, he possibly could have developed into a quality player for us, or at least a reliable backup. Now, he's probably going to bust, and they may have messed his head up so much, he may never have a career in the NFL. Rigidity and taking a cookie cutter approach with players is not the wisest or right way to coach/run a team. I hope MLF and Saleh wise up.
