Trade TJ to Bucs for Pick, Promote Ware

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  1. GSourJr

    GSourJr New Member

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    Been reading about how the Buccaneers are desperate for a running back. They've got a pretty good team this year, but injuries are killing them.

    Consider this proposal and my reasons why:

    Thomas Jones is a very good back, when he has a line in front of him. He doesn't have one this year, and so, he's really a cadillac (pardon the pun) without a set of tires. He's wasted on our team.

    We could get by very nicely with Leon Washington and Danny Ware who was outstanding in the preseason, and since, has disappeared from sight. (Hopefully, he's still on the PS).

    We asked for a 1st round pick in 2008, maybe give them a 6 or 7 in return. If we have to, we could settle for a #2.

    We have many needs great and small, and there's no point running this thoroughbread behind our wonderbread offensive line.
     
  2. Rambo13

    Rambo13 New Member

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    What did we trade to get Jones again? That's right.
     
  3. nyjetsrule

    nyjetsrule Active Member

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    so it seems that everytime we start to lose, the answer is to trade everyone for draft picks? this isn't madden people! we have to keep our best pieces and build around them. not trade them away.
     
  4. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Actually the way to build a team in the NFL is to acquire draft picks. Lots and lots of draft picks.

    Trading aging vets for picks would be a surefire way to rebuild except for the fact that most NFL teams (the Jets unfortunately not among them) respect their draft picks and know that they are the most valuable commodities to have on a continuing basis.

    The Jets believe that talent just grows on trees as evidenced by their terrible draft pick wastage of the last half decade.
     
  5. MyFavoriteMartin5

    MyFavoriteMartin5 New Member

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    They can't trade Jones, the cap hit would be too big
     
  6. Rambo13

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    I wish we could trade you to the Bucs but we probably wouldn't get a high draft pick back.
     
  7. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    I want to trade this thread for another Pennington bashing thread.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Mmmmm. That would be great. Let's take a dump on the only intelligent move the FO made this offseason.
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Exactly right..things are never as simple as people think. He is un-tradeable for at least another 2 years.
     
  10. GSourJr

    GSourJr New Member

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    Acquiring Jones was only a good move if they acquired some run blockers. They didn't.

    Jones ineffectiveness comes as no surprise to me or anybody who knows something about the game.

    If Tannenbaum had done his job and built up the offensive line in the offseason, you could've given the ball to abyzmal and he would've moved the chains.

    They don't need Jones, they need roadgraders, and to get em they need draft picks.
     
  11. Cellar-door

    Cellar-door Active Member

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    putting aside the cap hit, what has jones done exactly to raise his price from the 2nd to a first? If they make a deal I'd bet on mewelde moore for a late first day pick
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I agree and have no idea how anybody can say that was a good move. They needed a RB only slightly less then they needed a CB.
     
  13. nyjetsrule

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    Ok hello, you cant build an entire team in one offseason, you build it piece by piece, last offseason we clearly needed a RB, so Tanny went out and got us one. He did us some good. Now he needs to get us some road grading guards, that will come this offseason, everybody needs to relax with the lets just trade everybody and start over threads.
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Hello..you don't waste money on what you don't need. If that was a good move then he wouldn't be rushing for 35 yards a game the past two weeks. The way you talk you get 10 years to rebuild a team. Half the people tehy have now will be dead or retired by then.
     
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  15. GSourJr

    GSourJr New Member

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    Not suggesting a panic move, just trying to take advantage of another team who may panic and overpay for Jones.

    I think Leon Washington is the best RB on the team. He faster, quicker, more explosive than Jones.

    People will say he's too small to be an everydown back...but they said the same thing about Priest Holmes and Charlie Garner.

    Washington can handle the load.
     
  16. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    He is untradeable, we already said that. His cap hit this year would be 18 million dollars...maybe 14. Whatever his signing bonus was plus this year's salary.
     
  17. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    Boobway is the one who ignored the OL for years while drafting a ton of DBs. Tann drafted two OL in round 1 in 06. Dumbway is the one who ignored the OL.
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Maybe 2 firsts and this is why. If we traded him and of course we can't, then we would have to absorb all the guarenteed money. That would mean the team we traded him to would only have to pay him his minimal salary which I think is about 500,000 a year. Maybe a little more. Do you realize what that's worth to a team? They would be getting an NFL starting RB for about 3 million over the next 4 years where even the lowliest 1st round bust will cost a minimum of 20 million.
     
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  19. Cellar-door

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    except next year he'd be their backup RB behind cadillac, mI believe the guaranteed money is closer to 12 than 20. and to be honest you don't trade a first rounder for Jones anyway, he is a solid platoon back, but not a star. first round picks are used on guys you want to be the face of your franchise, mcGahee has to be considered more valuable than Jones, he netted a 3rd and 7th. people just don't trade high picks for Rbs, Dillon was a 3rd, I can't think of a single Rb traded for a first round pick.
     
  20. I normally shy away from your Anti-Bradway hatred as it can be alittle over the top. But in this case, you are absolutely right. The current OL woes are the direct result of Bradway's drafting.
     

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