Top TEs?

Gresham, Gronkowski, McCoy. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Gronkowski in the 2 if he falls a bit... although I do think there are more important positions that need to be addressed.

 

Well first of all its intresting that you started a thread about top TE's and instead of breaking down your Top TE's you mostly talk about your mock draft

While we are on that subject. You have us picking Taylor Mays in the FIRST. NOOOOOOOOOO bad call, I would probably spend a good hour booing if we made that pick. Second of all I have to disagree on picking Tate before Oghobaase. Tate is one of the most complete WR in the draft, and could very well be the first WR taken in round 2 so I don't see how we could pass on him over Oghobaase even though Oghobaase was fairly productive even though he missed 8 games

 

I really like Aaron Hernandez, and I believe he'll be one of the first three Tight Ends off the board. He doesn't have the size that many want in a tight end, but as long as he doesn't measure out at 6'1 or lower he'll be fine. There are a lot of top TE's that come in about 6'3 250, so his 6'2 250 should be fine. Factor in as well his tremendous athletic ability and versatility in the passing game and some team will covet him in round 2. I think that Gresham and Gronkowski are clearly the top two TEs and potential first rounders because they can both become elite in the passing game and as blockers.

 

Wasn't Mickey Shuler's kid supposed to come out this year? I would draft him just on that alone...

 

He's not a great athlete, but is an incredible run blocker. In receiving, he's what you'd expect, a slow white guy with very good hands who runs good routes--think Anthony Becht, with slightly better hands. He'd be a great pick-up in the 6th or 7th.

 

I thought the exact same thing.

If Golden Tate runs well, he could easily go in the first round - teams are starting to realize that slot receivers can be big time weapons, especially now that the spread offense has arrived in the NFL.

Wes Welker opened a lot of doors for guys like Golden Tate.

If the Jets drafted Taylor Mays, I'd be pretty upset. It's not that he's untalented, it's that he doesn't want it. Why replace a safety that doesn't like to try with a player with the exact same problem? I'd rather the Jets take an offensive lineman or a corner.

 

I don't think it's that he doesn't want it at all. In fact, the one thing Mays definitely is is motivated and dedicated in the film room and weight room.
He wants to be one of the best safeties to ever play, I just don't know if that will happen.

Quite honestly I don't know what to expect from Mays in the NFL. I know that he'll be a big hitter that will miss some tackles at first but he'll lower his shoulder instead of wrapping up, that's about the only sure thing. Last year at USC he was dropped far back into coverage as a centerfielder to make sure that absolutely nothing got behind him, so he didn't have many chances to make a play on a pass or be involved to the level that guys like Eric Berry and Morgan Burnett were last year. Then this year they moved up him far closer to the line scrimmage in more of an old school SS role to help against the run because they lost 3 1st round linebackers and Fili Moala to the NFL. This didn't allow him to really be a playmaker in coverage. He had 53 tackles last year, and that number skyrocketed to 96 this year. 3 passes broken up this year, compared to 9 passes broken up last year.

Mays isn't the kind of playmaker like Berry, Burnett, or Thomas in coverage, but has that been a result of being bad in coverage? Having poor hands? Playing in a scheme that sacrifices personal stats? No one can know until his rookie season is playing out, and we'll get a slightly better idea after the Senior Bowl.

He may end up being a very good 4-3 OLB depending on his ability to shed blocks like other S-turned-LBs like Thomas Davis and Brian Urlacher. Or he could end up being a good to very good safety in the NFL. It's going to be a waiting game. I've been a heavy watcher of Mays over the past two seasons, so take this as you will.

 

It's obvious that he's dedicated...especially in the weight room. He just makes no plays at all in coverage, and that's scary. A guy with his measurables should be able to make plays all over the field.

I can also see him being converted into a 4-3 linebacker, because he likes to hit. He just needs to learn to wrap up.

I watched him a lot too, and I noticed him give up on a lot of plays. The guy hits to kill if he's got a shot, but in coverage, he's lacking.

By the way, I really don't get how any of this thread is about tight ends.

 

He's just been banged up...so he's kind of flying under the radar.

RG will definitely be one of the top tight end prospects this year. He's arguably the most complete, top tier TE.

 

He'd be a hell of a late round pick, because he's a hard-nosed blocking tight end.

If we bring in someone like Shuler, we can say goodbye to Ben Hartsock.

 

I think the switch from safety from lb is definetly a good move for Mays he isnt horrible in coverage its jsut that he makes horrble angles on plays sometimes, as a lb he wouldnt be exposed to that as much.
And no way are we trading kerry after this game he played well enough to be back next year

 

Hey, we agree on something! Watching Penn State, Shuler's role this year was minimized from last year because Andrew Quarless, who is an elite pass-catcher, learned how to block, and got out of JoePa's doghouse, but Shuler is basically a 6th offensive lineman out there.

 

Shuler is the best blocking TE in this upcoming draft.

Don't expect too much of an offensive output.

 

Yes, but let me say this: he works well as a decoy. You know, pinch in and block for a sec, then get off and make the catch in the flat? Works really well in the red zone, that sort of play, and he rarely drops balls. But he can't stretch the defense at all.

 

God I'd love to draft that guy... (like my sig says)...