This probably belongs in the Draft section but since I don't think the Jets will be involved at all with this answer I'll put it here. Assuming the Wildcat catches on in the NFL with a few more teams, do you think it would be a wise move for those teams to look into Tim Tebow next season? Specifically, I'm thinking Miami. Think about a backfield that puts Tim Tebow, Chad Pennington, Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, and Ted Ginn Jr. on the field at the same time. Williams is scary coming out of the backfield and Brown is a better pass catching RB than I think most give him credit for. Combine this with the fact that Tebow already has experience in the Wildcat from his national championship days at Florida when Urban Meyer would put Tebow and Leak onto the field at the same time with Leak starting under center but then splitting out wide and Tebow taking the snap up the middle. His athleticism would also make him a good candidate to line him up as a WR or TE and have him fake a block or half-ass a route and then go into a seam route, sort of like Tyler Thigpen's TD reception from earlier this season. He's athletic enough to run and he has proven to be an accurate and smart QB at the college level. Add Tedd Ginn Jr.'s speed on this formation and you could have a shitload of possibilities that would scare most DCs into a coma. In fact, I don't think I'll be getting much sleep for the next couple of weeks...
It sounds like a good idea but I don't think it gets by Parcells if he's still there in April. We're set with Chad for at least 2 more seasons and have Henne learning behind him. Tebow is projected to be a 3rd round pick if he comes out. I just can't see BP or Ireland using our 3rd on a QB with our current situation especially considering both guys are sold on their draft philosophy. DE/3-4 OLB and CB will probably be day 1 picks, but we'll see
that would require tebow becoming a reciever which i dont see happening. otherwise everytime a team saw tebow coming onto the field they would know it was a gimmick play of some type.
Not if they become comfortable enough with him as a passer. Having the six skill players on the field being, say, Pennington-Tebow-Brown-Ginn and then some combo of Williams, Fasano, or another WR would give him 3 or 4 receiving options and the threat of about 4 different potential runners. It'd be a helluva'n interesting concept, but I don't see them actually going for it.
i just dont see how you get tebow on the field consistently without him being a receiver in that scenario. would they want to take away passes from pennington? what the guy that wasn't playing at qb do on normal plays? or are you just suggesting they have an entire package with that personnel that is basically all sorts of trick plays that they would run out for a few series a game? it is an interesting concept thats for sure. i just dont see a good way of implementing it.
I realize that there are problems with this actually happening. The biggest problem from this being implemented is mostly the amount of money the NFL pays its QBs so it would be difficult justifying the roster financially, plus Tebow would give you a roster with 4 QBs. Second, a third round pick would be expensive for a player brought in for gimmick plays. Still, there are a few advantages. In the case of Pennington, you have a 32 year old QB with a twice-repaired shoulder. This past season has left no doubt in my mind that Pennington can be an effective and even stellar QB but at his age and with his medical history, allowing Tebow - or Williams, or Brown, for that matter - throw a few passed and give Pennington a rest wouldn't be too bad of an idea. Second, Tebow most likely won't enter the NFL as a QB. He's just too athletic and with the modern NFL conception of a QB (ability to drop-back under center on a consistent basis, be ready to compete within one to two years of being drafted, commanding a huge salary...etc.) Tebow's potential at other positions (RB/TE) would make most GMs and coaches consider him for other roster spots. Also, if Tebow can contribute on the field as a receiver than he's only going to look more attractive as a prospect and make him more effective in the wildcat (once again, see Thigpen's receiving TD). This, I think, Is a moot point since most defenders will assume that when they see Pennington split out right and Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams ready to take the snap in the shotgun. Antoni, of course there are going to be many factors in drafting a player at any position in the draft (need, available talent, value to the team...etc.) But if we just assume that the QB position is the only factor in the equation, I think you're assuming that Ireland/Parcells feel that John Beck is a better option at QB than Tebow. I'm not sure how they feel about Tebow but the way Parcells was supposed to have felt about Beck seems to say that he's not a guarantee to be on the team in '09. Second, as I said before, I don't think Tebow is going to be a QB in the NFL. Lastly, I don't think that Miami is the only possible destination for Tebow, I just chose this team because of the familiarity this team has with the wildcat and how effective it has been.
I think it was Ireland who said they(in Dallas) were really high on Beck in that 07 Draft. I don't believe him though, he's probably just trying to build up a little value with Beck. I agree I think Beck is toast if we can get some kind of a pick for him. Just need to find a sucker willing to trade for him. Jerry Jones and Al Davis of course are the obvious targets. Although I don't know how many more times Bill can make a fool out of Jones
Don't hold your breath on Davis, he has a lot more $50 million contracts to hand out before he even gets to Beck.
the difference is they can have those 3 players on the field and run a traditional offense. the defense doesn't know the wildcat is coming until they break the huddle and chad goes out wide. if you bring in a player specifically for trick plays the defense knows before the huddle is broken and has a better chance at having people in the correct position to stop it.
Yes, but if Tebow has been converted to a different position and has seen time at that position than the wildcat play is less apparent. Second, even if the defense knows it's a gimmick play there's no guarantee that they can stop it. All it does is leave another assignment for which they have to account.
