Three QB Scenarios for 2013 - choose the odds

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by abyzmul, May 29, 2013.

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Pick one

  1. Sanchez gets the job in preseason

    23.6%
  2. Open competition between Sanchez and Smith

    56.2%
  3. Sanchez cut, Smith starts

    20.2%
  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Okay, we need to get the writing on the wall for TGG.

    As I see it, there are three realistic scenarios for a smart GM to take to decide the future of the QB position for the upcoming season.

    1) The Jets decide to start Sanchez early, and let him prove himself. He can prove the unlikely scenario and overcome previous adversity, and become the quarterback that we all wanted him to become.

    Pro: If Sanchez succeeds, the Jets only spent a 2nd round pick on Geno, and have a young QB to back up the incumbent.

    Con: If Sanchez fails, and the Jets have a young QB that has never played pro-style QB and has only played with the 2nd team all year to fall back on. Which means that they don't know what they have in Geno, and can't realistically draft a QB in round 1 of 2013.

    2) The Jets provide a true QB competition, giving Sanchez and Smith equaly time with the 1st team, to decide who will be the starter and backup.

    Pro: We know who is the true starter on opening day, and who should be figuring out his future by studying and practicing with the 2 team.

    Con: The opening day starter only has half as many reps with the 1 team, meaning that he will be unprepared for opening day and still trying to find chemistry with his receivers and tight ends and backs and OL players.

    3) Sanchez is released prior to opening day, and Geno is placed into the lineup as opening day starter, and they can evaluate his ability, taking into account the obstacles he is up against.

    Pro: The Jets have the freedom to either draft around his ability in 2013, if he is promising, or draft one of the many promising QB prospects in the 2013 draft if he is questionable.

    Con: Starting a non-pro style offense QB as a rookie makes it far more possible that he will caause stupid injuries to RBs, TEs and OL players just by miscommunicating or badly executing plays.




    I know there are other possible scenarios out there, but there are the only ones that I can see happening wityh this team.

    Humor me. Which would you prefer?
     
  2. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    Just simplify the offense and add to it week by week

    Run the ball, dominate special teams and play lights out D

    All Geno has to do is not fuck up

    Package 15-20 passing plays week 1, each week add in a small wrinkle but allow him to be who he is

    Jets can make the playoffs playing like that
     
  3. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    open competition.

    let them fight it out.it will raise the level of one of their games and give us the best possible player for the season
     
  4. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Bottom line, the Jets know Sanchez is better than Freeman,whoever gets the Jills job,and Lockyer, in tue first four weeks.

    Starting Smith would be gambling the season away.
     
  5. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    This is the QB position

    Splitting reps won't help neither one
     
  6. 1968jetsfan

    1968jetsfan Well-Known Member

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    As much as I don't believe in Sanchez I voted #2 open competition, but if it's even in camp and pre-season give the job to Geno and see what we have. We already know what we have in Sanchez.
     
  7. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    #2

    I'd love to see it all click for Sanchez and he morphs into the guy we all thought he would be in 2010..............but after becoming skittish again after taking a big hit, he fails and Geno is in by mid-season :shit:
     
  8. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    Definitely cut Sanchez and start Geno. Sanchez is a failure. Geno may not be.
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    2 and 3 can go hand in hand. There could be an open competition and Sanchez could (and would) get cut before opening day if he does not win it.
     
  10. deerow84

    deerow84 Well-Known Member

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    Personally I don't have very high expectations for this season so I'm not afraid to write it off, I am afraid to ruin Geno by rushing him into things or not give him any reps so we don't know what we have in him.

    So my answer would be to start Sanchez unless Geno absolutely hands down wins the battle in pre-season to the point that it would look ridiculous not to start him. If Sanchez sucks and we're below .500 at the bye (or earlier depending on how bad he is) then you bench him and get Geno some games to finish off the season with very little pressure, especially if we're already out of playoff picture. He probably won't win a lot due to lack of chemistry but he'll get a few games and practices in to start generating that chemistry for next year and we get to see him against some NFL calibre defences.

    Possible scenarios:
    1) Sanchez exceeds expectations and we're a playoff team. Either you can see it as having depth at QB or if we're really sure of Geno we may have generated some trade value for Sanchez in the offseason. Negative: If Sanchez regresses again next year and Geno is a bust but we haven't seen it yet we have two shitty QBs and don't know it.
    2) Sanchez sucks, we put in Geno and Geno sucks. At least we know that we may need to draft another QB next year. Likely with a high pick if they are both that bad, we cut Sanchez.
    3) Sanchez sucks, we put in Geno and he proves he's starter material. We cut Sanchez draft/sign talent to help Geno next year and build around him (Best case scenario IMO...well, barring Sanchez having a miraculous turnaround and leading us to a Super Bowl, winning the MVP, etc...but this isn't dream land).
    4) We play both and both are mediocre to average. Hardest spot to be in, IMO. I would still cut Sanchez due to his salary alone and then we figure out if we want to bring in a better veteran to mentor Geno or if we draft another QB.
     
  11. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    Give Sanchez job.

    Don't rush Geno out there if he has true starter ability. Let him sit a la Rodgers so when he does finally take the field he isn't putting our offensive players, nor himself, in harms way.
     
  12. Matt4776

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    Aaron Rodgers was also learning from one of the best quarterbacks of all time.

    Geno Smith will be learning from Mark Sanchez.
     
  13. The 1985er

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    Garrard retiring threw a wrench in everything. I don't think they should cut Sanchez, just let him and Geno battle it out and may the best man win (hopefully Geno)
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I got the feeling Mark may have been cut before Garrard left but now they have no choice but to keep him. I think they will want Smith to win the job so Mark has to outplay him significantly or Smith has to show he just isn't ready to start.
     
  15. ukjetsfan

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    I would hate to see the Jets rush Geno out there and leave him shell-shocked by the end of the season. I would definitely start Sanchez, as much to see how the rest of the offense shapes up as to give Sanchez another chance.

    I think Sanchez is shot, mentally, but I would rather see him struggle in a bad offense than Geno.

    If the offense gels - if the line solidifies and the running backs offer a consistent threat and the receiving corps looks halfway decent - then Geno can be phased in if Sanchez is still looking bad. If none of those things happens, Geno wouldn't make any difference anyway and the punishment might as well be dumped on Sanchez.

    Short answer: Option 1.
     
  16. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    For those who are afraid of rushing Geno out there...why?

    Rookies have started and had success before. Ryan Tannenhill started and went 7-9 (probably 9-7 had the kicker not missed a couple of gimme field goals).

    Let Geno handle the pressure. If he is a NFL QB, he will handle the pressure of getting his team to the playoffs. Starting him when we're knocked out is foolish. You don't really see how the team can handle pressure situations with Geno under center. Especially since the latter half of the schedule is likely filled with draft bowl candidates (Cleveland, Raiders, Panthers).

    Start out slow and gradually open up the playbook. That's how Geno (or any rookie QB) can be successful
     
  17. NFL

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    I want Geno to start unless he really really struggles in training camp. If he seems ok, start him. Unlike Tannehill, he has I think 3 years behind him if being the starter. That alone is a plus.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    or 5-11 they won a couple of games they probably shouldn't have plus he barely played in the win over us. Don't forget he had his college coach in Miami and played in the same system. That was a HUGE benefit to him.

    Some QBs can handle it, others cannot. It's up to our staff to determine if it is in his best interest long term.
     
  19. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    Shit, thats a really tough call to make with those options.
    I went with cut Sanchez and start Smith, reason being I suppose if we are cleaning house, might as well go the whole hog.

    I don't like the idea of the open competition and splitting time with the 1s, that doesn't benefit anyone at all and hurts the team overall.

    I like option 1 as well, but the result could be the same as 3.

    My one question is this, with option 3, cutting Sanchez and starting Geno, who is #2 QB on the team? Jamarcus Russell :eek:hmy:


    edit: For the record I would love to see Sanchez get shot of his demons and suceed..... with us
     
  20. jdon

    jdon Well-Known Member

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    i get it when they say they want an open competition, but they cannot ignore the Sanchez baggage. If he has a good preseason they would be derelict in their responsibility if they did not also take into account his body of work here. They would be crazy to forget his failures if he throws a few pre season completions.
     

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