The turning point

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  1. soh_vet

    soh_vet Well-Known Member

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    The obvious turning point for me is without question the sudfeld interception with little time remaining in the half.

    Why throw a bomb with 2+ minutes left within decent FG range?
    Regardless of whether sudfeld catches it or not, we do the following if we just nickel and dime our way to a FG

    Run the clock down
    Make GB use timeouts
    Score a FG
    Give Rodgers less time to march down the field

    It was a completely bonehead play call from MM.

    That doesn't mean we definitely score a FG, nor does it mean Rodgers doesn't march down and collect 7.
    At the very least, it gives him less time to do so.

    The key to the game should've been to keep AR off the field as much as possible

    Fucking Marty - No more Vick either. He is not a receiver and he's not the starting QB. He should only come in if Geno completely shits the bed or gets hurt.
     
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    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    That was a "bomb"? lol

    He had Sudfeld wide open for a 20 yard reception two yards from the end zone. He saw him and fired it to him. I don't think he knew a guy would be pile driving him into the ground at the same instance.
     
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    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention Sudfield could have easily got his hands in front of the ball to atleast break up the play
     
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    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    I was listening on audio pass. Was the int on geno or sudfeld?
     
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    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Neither.

    The interception was because Geno was fuckin nailed while making a throw to a wide open Sudfeld. The ball went flying in the air and up for grabs.

    People are pissed because Sudfeld just stood there when the corner jumped up to grab it. He could have at least fought him for it.
     
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  6. soh_vet

    soh_vet Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter. The point was to milk the clock by running for a TD and passing as needed or setting up a FG. You take time off the clock so wonder boy doesn't march down the field with plenty of time and timeouts. What are you missing?
     
  7. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    In real time it looked like a bad pass. But it wasn't. Just an unfortunate result. But football and life in general has those unfortunate results/moments sometimes.
     
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    Awesome how Amaro is a total non factor, we're throwing jump balls to freakin Sudfeld who just stands there. Meanwhile Cody Latimer would be the best WR on our team.
     
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    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Yes if Geno and MM knew that the line would collapse thus affecting the throw I'm sure they would've called a different play. We had our feet on their neck and going for the kill was the right idea. Had that play worked we would've either scored 6 or been at the 1.
     
  10. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    Try to think of it this way

    Do you want a guaranteed plus 3 and half ends-

    Or a possible 7, minus a possible 7 back the other way because there is so much time left?

    PLUS if anything freaky happens, a turnover could cost you the easy 3 you had and create momentum the other way?

    Guess what- we lost in every way possible
     
  11. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    It's Winters' fault for getting his ass whipped, and Idzik's fault for drafting him and then not picking up a suitable replacement when it's obvious the guy is a major liability in pass protection and one of these days is bound to get his QB killed.

    It's also Geno's fault for not eating it or throwing it out of bounds. The guy still hasn't learned situational football and it seems like he never will.
     
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    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    Hell YES! I made the same point in my thread entitled "terrible play calling." Also, on the pass to Sudfeld IT WAS FIRST DOWN! The jets had a 1st and 10 at the Pack 27 with 2 minutes in the half. Any coach WITH A BRAIN would have run 2 or 3 running plays to burn the Pack timeouts and then kick the FG. The jets would have been up 24-9 at the half instead of 21-16. The STUPIDITY of that play (throwing to your third string TE into the end zone in that situation) cost the jets the game. Rex Ryan and MM get outcoached every week when instead of doing the obvious (run in that situation) you turn it over to rogers with all 3 timeouts. The Jets GAVE THIS GAME AWAY!
     
  13. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    All this team needs on offense is a new LG and a journeyman game manager QB who won't make dumb mistakes / turn the ball over in critical situations.

    Unfortunately every QB on the roster is either a scrub or a TO waiting to happen.
     
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    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    Play should have never been called. Run the clock, burn the Pack timeouts, and kick FG. Then it is 24-9, not 21-16. It was incredibly stupid play on FIRST down, deep in their territory, with 2 minutes on clock.
     
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    Or a coach that calls the right plays in that situation
     
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    Latimer who plays for the Broncos? The guy who can't beat out Andre Caldwell for playing time? The guy who didn't even dress today, even though Welker was out? Girlfriend please.

    It was a risky play call that was poorly executed and we got burned. Turning this into a "We should've drafted ______ instead!" thread is a huge stretch.
     
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    Ricky Stanzi is a FA.
     
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    just like Foles "couldn't beat out Vick" and then went to the pro bowl right. yea he sucks tho cuz he "couldn't beat out Vick".

    I am gonna turn it into that because we are in severe need of WR and why the hell do we draft the guy if we're gonna throw it to our UDFA tight end instead.
     
  19. Jetaho

    Jetaho Well-Known Member

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    You're talking about QBs to highlight our draft needs for WR in a thread about a pass to a TE. Not trying to be a dick, but you need to slow your roll.
     
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    74 Well-Known Member

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    No I'm addressing your false assumption that a player isn't any good or would not be an upgrade for our team because he's not starting currently. And don't tell me what to do.
     

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