The Prosecution and Defense of Mark Sanchez

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  1. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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  2. NYCKNP

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    I side with the defense on this one. Schotty is no longer there, so now we see what Mark Sanchez on how good of a QB he really is.
     
  3. JET'S_my_name

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    I propose death!......By exile.
     
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    not much else we can do than hope for the best, another expensive SB or bust move by FO would be detrimental
     
  5. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Another? What was the first one?
     
  6. TheGreenCantona

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    my bad shouldn't have been another, makes trading up Sanchez the first one, which i do not agree with
     
  7. Milliner is your Mommy

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    ah. I was seriously trying to think though. I thought maybe you meant Brett Favre but we did better the 2 years after he left.
     
  8. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    mannning would have been the ultimate one :)
     
  10. TurkJetFan

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    perhaps, but quick smart snap decision and constantly under duress decision are entirely different. when given a semblance of time he in fact has shown he can do that, in 2009 and 2010.
     
  11. displacedfan

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    Good read. Summed the basic points on each "side" that argue Sanchez and his future
     
  12. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Tell that to Drew Brees and Eli Manning.
     
  13. Catt_County

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    What was trading for Favre? Chopped liver? Did y'all trade for him just so he could experience "life in the big city" after all those years in Green Bay?
     
  14. Catt_County

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    This is sad, but so true. Some high draft pick QBs bust because they have other issues (Ryan Leaf, J'Marcus Russell, etc), but for most, it's because they just don't "get it". There's also no formula to know if college QBs have the ability, either, since college defenses are so much simpler than what the pros run.
     
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    It was a dumb move but it isn't like that set the Jets back it actually forced the issue of drafting a QB and led to them getting Rex

    edit: I know that wasn't the intention when Favre was acquired I'm just pointing out they didn't give up a lot for him and midway thru the season they were pretty damn good
     
  16. DarrelleRevis.Human?

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    Sanchez has one more year to prove he can be more than a backup. No more Schotty here to scape goat his problems on. This is his put up or shut up year.

    I'm critical of him but at the same time I want him to succeed badly, I'm just afraid that he can't.
     
  17. Catt_County

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    If it could be coached, the "hit" rate for first round QBs would be much higher than the about 50% it is. It would a whole lot higher than the 5% or whatever it is for 2nd rounders.

    Coaches can help QBs with better mechanics, with learning how to watch film, etc, but translating what's happening on the field into knowing what actions to do within a second or two of seeing it is all the QB. It's the difference between Brees and Kolb and/or Henne. It's the difference between Eli Manning and David Carr. It's also the difference between Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith.
     
  18. xxedge72x

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    Wrong.

    This isn't Madden where you wait four years and their rating either spikes to a 90+ or it doesn't.

    When you make an investment in a guy like Sanchez you need to commit to seeing his development through for the long run. Unless the guy is a total and colossal failure, which Sanchez is not, you stick with him and keep workin on him until he gets you where you need to be. It doesn't guarantee anything ala Donovan McNabb but its the most surefire way to develop your team.

    Sanchez has gotten better every year since his rookie year. He still has problems yes but they are coachable problems. The new coordinator and system will be a breath of fresh air. Further, a lot of quarterbacks typically don't blossom until after their fifth year.

    San Diego gave up on the development of Drew Brees and how'd that turn out? I don't feel Philip Rivers was worth it considering what Brees has done in New Orleans.

    Giants fans were ready to dump Eli twice... both times he pulled through for a Super Bowl... suddenly he's a Hall of Fame candidate... see how thin the line is?

    The Jets best bet at this point is to stick with the program. Until Sanchez shows in a surefire way that he'll never get better / get the job done he should be the Jets guy... the franchise QB.
     
  19. Catt_County

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    I was just pointing out was that most fans around the league consider the Jets trading for Favre a "Super Bowl or bust" move. Didn't the Jets also add some other vets about that same time?
     
  20. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    If a QB is being instructed to spend a minute searching for a target... he'll do so... if he's being instructed to release the ball after four seconds regardless of where it's going... he'll do that too. The philosophy of the coaching staff gets beaten into QBs and they are trained to think that way... especially during their earlier years.

    Its the reason why it happens so often that after a change of coaching QBs step up their play... they get a fresh perspective on what works and doesn't work and they get a chance to evolve in their skill set. Natural ability is great but so is good coaching and hard work. Just because it doesn't happen all the time doesn't mean it's not the way to go.

    If every team in the NFL had to wait around to land a "natural" like Aaron Rodgers then most teams simply wouldn't compete until they finally found their guy.
     

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