The Pats have no statistical edge in this game

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  1. Wizard Of Odds

    Wizard Of Odds New Member

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    It breaks down this way...


    Pats = 14th in Passing, Jets = 11th against the pass. This is a statistical wash..

    Pats = 16th in Rushing, Jets = 3rd against the run. Bigtime advantage Jets.

    Jets are 20th in Passing, Pats are 31st against the Pass. Advantage Jets.

    Jets are 4th in Rushing, Pats are 18th against the run. Advantage Jets.



    So the Pats have absolutely no statistical advantage going into the next game... Even their great passing attack is nullified by the Jets D. To assume they have any chance of winning in light of this is just wishful thinking on their part.
     
  2. Elijah

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    You're right. However, stats don't always translate into wins. Just ask the Chargers, who at one point were 2-5 with the "best" offense AND defense.
     
  3. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Since when did the stats reveal the whole picture?
     
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    We may be leading in stats but the fact is they have looked liked the better team these past few weeks with the exception of their Browns game. Their offense is in rhythm and firing on all cylinders and Brady hasn't thrown a pick in 6 straight games. By them putting up 30 per game with no turnovers makes it very difficult for use to just come out and say we are going to kick their ass. If we beat them it will be a hard fought well-deserved victory for our team. Your underestimating them pretty badly and letting yourself become prone for a huge letdown if things don't go our way.
     
  5. TommyBrady12

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    stats are meaningless when it comes to the pats. the pats were the 20th ranked run defense in 2001 and 10th in pass D and we all know how that turned out. pats are the ultimate TEAM.
     
  6. Wizard Of Odds

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    All I'm saying is every team we've played, even the bad ones, have had some sort of statistical edge on the Jets, but the Pats haven't got one single edge on us. They are not better than the Jets in any quantifiable way. How can anyone think they'll win on Monday night?
     
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    Even their homefield advantage is no advantage. They're 5-0 at home, but the Jets are 5-0 on the road. They would almost have a better chance of winning at the Jets than they do at home on Monday night.
     
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    They aren't the whole picture, but they do mean something when you add them up. For instance, is it reasonable to assume the Pats will try to run the ball against the Jets when the Jets D is 3rd against the run and the Pats are 16th in rushing? Sure they might try, but how far will they get? Would you choose that as an offensive game strategy if you were Bill Belichick? So yes, the stats do mean something ultimately.
     
  9. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    ypg stats usually dont tell the whole story (although the pats pass D is that bad)

    they are #1 in turnover differential ... thats how they win games
     

  10. They all love apple pie and their moms, right? They play for each other. And nobody knows this, but every Patriot volunteers 248 hours a week to community service, too. That's right, the Pats are so great, the length of their weeks is extended just to accommodate their greatness.
     
  11. pats-hater

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    Two words: Scarlett Johansson:

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  12. Elijah

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    They've been making clutch plays (not that the Jets haven't). The main difference between the 2009 Patriots and the 2010 Patriots is that while both teams may have let up in the second half, the 2010 Patriots don't let it translate into a loss.

    As for the 5-0 at home for the Patriots/5-0 on the road for the Jets point, you're right, but I don't think it gives the advantage to the Jets by any means. The Patriots need this game a lot more than the Jets do, as I posted in another thread.

    This game is going to be close. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.
     
  13. ace_o_spades

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    Patriots stength of schedule is 100000x harder than the Jets loloLZzzzz!!!1
     
  14. Wizard Of Odds

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    Basically it boils down to this... the Jets can choose whatever they want to do against the Pats defense. If they want to run it, they can run it. If they want to pass it, they can pass it. But the Patriots are very limited in what they can do here... They can't really run the ball against the Jets successfully, so that means we already know what they're going to try and do, so our defensive gameplan is far easier. As far as the INT's go, I think that goes to how many passes are thrown against the Patriots D as opposed to the Jets. Teams throw alot more against them, so it's natural that they would have more INT's. In this game the Jets will probably mix it up and do whatever they want successfully. The Pats have no such luxury.


    This won't even be close. The Jets are going to dismantle the Pats, and leave no doubt who the best team in the division is.
     
  15. bartscott

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    I think most people would agree that the Jets have more talent, except for in two very important positions..quarterback and coach...we have sophmores in both positions. Brady and Belichek have been here before.
     
  16. Zach

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    Did they try to run against anyone? Not unless the defense is backing off for the fear of passing attacks. For one thing, I have never seen the Patriots line up in a typical I-formation, trying to maul their way out - that's not their style of football, and in reality, rushing attack stats are pretty irrelevant - which also means, unless Jets find a way to contain the passing attack, which they will fail by the way, the rushing defense number is also irrelevant.

    If at all, their turnover differential had the Jets beat. Jets do NOT cause enough interceptions. Since Pats rarely run the ball, forcing fumble will be that much more difficult. And Sanchez WILL throw a few picks that day. Chances are, Pats will win the turnover battle in that game - and the game as well. This obviously doesn't look as good, does it?
     
  17. ace_o_spades

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    Your schtick is getting old man. We get it, you hopped on the Patriots bandwagon about 10 years ago and haven't looked back since. Good for you.
     
  18. Zach

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    Here we have a winner!
     
  19. PatsFan2003

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    I guess the Patriots don't stand a chance with all these stats.
     
  20. Seriously, it's tiring. Football in New England didn't even exist before 2001-02. Before that, it was just Sox season and Sox offseason.

    Now we have a new brand of fan, the Pats fan, who feels so entitled, so convinced that his team is superior because they all buy into the team concept, because they want to win. Evidently, no other professional athletes want to win.

    Entitled fans in general piss me off. Bandwagon entitled fans are the lowest of the low.
     

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