The Official "How Old is the Earth" Debate Club Thread

Discussion in 'BS Forum' started by Jets Esq., Aug 28, 2014.

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How old is the Earth?

Poll closed Sep 18, 2014.
  1. About 5,000 to 10,000 years old. The Bible literalists are correct.

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  2. About 4,500,000,000 years old. The scientists are correct.

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  3. Some other theory (Nihilism, Money Grab, etc) is correct. Explain in comments.

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  1. Jets Esq.

    Jets Esq. Guest

    Few things are taken for granted more than the planet on which we live. But there's been a lot of debate between the scientific community and Bible literalists as to how old our planet actually is.

    Some biblical scholars feel that the Earth is a few thousand years old, typically around 6,000. Others believe that those aspects of the Bible are not meant to be taken literally, or that they do not describe the complete scope of the time Earth has existed - or whatever - and accept the scientific view.

    Scientists have estimated the Earth to be about 4.5 billion years old, based on a bunch of science stuff.

    How old do you think the Earth is? Sound off in the comments below.
     
  2. OverloadBlitz

    OverloadBlitz Well-Known Member

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    How is this a debate, its already proven scientifically how old the Earth is, why don't we debate whether the Earth is flat or round while we're at it.
     
  3. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I heard it was created from the big bang. Which occurred slightly after the little bang and with more bangin'!
     
  4. silent scream

    silent scream Well-Known Member

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    Pfft scientists... I once saw a movie where a mad scientist used science to decapitate his victims. You gonna trust him or jebus?
     
  5. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    More importantly, if you leased the earth for $800 a month since the beginning, how much would it be worth today?

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  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Writing didn't exist 6,000 years ago. What was written on cuneiform tablets and inscribed on walls and columns and statues in the period from 5,400 years ago onwards doesn't correspond very well to later biblical revelations. This is somewhat surprising given that in many cases biblical tales are borrowed from earlier cultures. The obvious answer is that the people who wrote the Bible edited for political correctness and to meet the needs of their time. It wouldn't have been appropriate for them to add the Egyptian Sun God Ra or the Sumerian Arch Serpent God Zu to the Bible.

    The Far Eastern languages, which apparently were invented somewhat later have no correspondence what so ever with biblical revelation. This is not surprising given that the Romans and Chinese did not definitively establish contact until 166 AD. The Chinese tried to send an envoy to Rome in 97 AD but the party was never heard from again. Interestingly, the Indian mythology contains references to the Great Flood but the Chinese mythology does not. This is likely because the Indians were on the eastern reaches of Middle Eastern culture and myths from that culture were likely to be assimilated and correspond to events that occurred locally. The Chinese were separated from the Middle East by the Himalayas. The nomads who eventually conquered China and were assimilated had no reach into the Middle East or Western Europe at that time. They pushed peoples before them who then invaded the Middle East and Europe but the Mongols did not arrive until the 1200's in the Middle East and the 1300's in Europe.
     
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  7. soxxx

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    Good question, it is impossible to answer. The Annunaki created humans to mine gold from the earth, but who created Earth?

    What I do know is that this ship we are on is falling apart, and a new earth is coming:

     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The better question is "how old is mankind"?
     
  9. Jets Esq.

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    About 20% of Americans are Young Earth Creationists who believe that the Bible provides an accurate timeline of the earth's age. That's around 60 million Americans. It's not some fringe misbelief like the Flat Earth Society (way less than 1% of Americans think Earth is flat), it's a huge misbelief with tons of adherents. That makes it important/worthy of talking about in my opinion.

    Past value has no bearing on present value- it's the future payments that add to the present value. Interestingly, the present value of millions of years of payments is not wildly different from the present value of a few hundred years of payments. Basically, as you go further into the future, those payments contribute less and less to the PV.

    (I know this was a joke in reference to someone else's thread about a 45 year lease.)

    It's an interesting question. If you draw the line at the chimp-human divide, then about 7m - 8m years old. But they would not really be recognizable as humans to you and me. If you draw the line at homo sapiens, that's maybe 200,000 years ago. We've only had agriculture for 12,000 years, and civilization for about 6,000 years.

    More interestingly, there were 2 other humanoid species that went extinct. One was homo erectus- it's separate from homo sapiens and we did not evolve from them. They were a good 15% taller, and much heavier and stronger, but they had less developed brains and probably couldn't communicate/organize/cooperate as effectively as homo sapiens. With today's nutrition, the males would average maybe 6'8" (compared to 5'9"ish for American men), and the bigger ones would be well over 8 feet tall. The crazily tall ones (equivalent of over 7 foot tall homo sapiens) would be over 9 feet tall.
     
  10. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    We're all a bunch of homo's.
     
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  11. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    At least 4.65 billion years old....
     
  12. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Estimates of early hominid species ability to communicate effectively and organize vary wildly.

    Two generations ago we thought human beings were the only living species that used tools. Now we know that dozens and maybe hundreds of species are tool users, from avians, to mammals to reptiles. We know that many insects are tool users.

    At a guess the "early hominids were dumb" school of thought could not be farther from the truth.
     
  13. JetBlue

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    It's a pretty reasonable position to take that God decided to track time in the Universe by the revolution of a one of billions of single balls of rock with a molten nickel core in the Universe around one of billions of balls of hydrogen and helium in the Universe, therefore even if we were to take the book literally then it is clearly in terms of time as experienced by humans.
     
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  14. Jets Esq.

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    Cool story, bro.
     
  15. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Stealing my question beyotch?
     
  16. milo

    milo Well-Known Member

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    This poll would have been so much better in the Tebowmania thread.
     
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  17. Yisman

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    Yes, and on that note, the Earth is as old as Tebow says it is.

    So the OP should go ask him.
     
  18. JStokes

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    $800 a year?

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  19. Faux machine

    Faux machine Well-Known Member

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    I'm more interested in combating the lies round earth Illuminati henchmen have been forcing on the public. I mean who cares how old the earth is when you all believe a lie?
     
  20. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Whether Mother Earth's a mature 4.5 billion years or a still robust 10,000 years, does it really matter one way or another? Somebody please flip a coin and let's break for lunch.
     

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