The most important part of the team

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  1. bleedgreen

    bleedgreen Well-Known Member

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    Excepting QB, I would aways prioritize brawn over skill. Creating running holes and protecting the QB, stopping running holes and rushing the QB will win more games then.having great receivers or running backs.
    Now preseason games are actually less than meaningful. One game can distort a players ability you trust the coaches to use the entire trading camp performance to create a roster, preseason being an.important part but not the whole story.

    That being said, the green bay players were just not going through the motions. It was a "real" game. Both our lines looked wonderful. Our QB for the most part had adequate time in the pocket. There
    Were some good holes opened up. Defensive line look very good the entire game.
    It is my opinion that the quality drop off from a first tier lineman,either side to the second tier is far greater than the drop off in skill positions.
    So, I am very encouraged by the play of the most important of the team. But again, the game could be worse than meaningless. Hopefully it's not
     
  2. Jets OG fan

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    It's nice having a respectable Oline. Some of those holes they created last night were huge!!
     
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    I think there is some work that needs to be done in short yardage situations. With this O line and these RBs, getting 1 yard should not be a problem.
     
  4. bleedgreen

    bleedgreen Well-Known Member

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    we really don't know yet about very much. Play calling was vanilla, as its supposed to be. the play called on the 4th down was atrocious...the back took forever to get up to the line. but there was nothing to complain about, in fact they deserve cheers for that game.
     
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    Jets69 Well-Known Member

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    We better have more than a respectable OL, with all the draft capital this organization has invested into it, not just number 1 picks, but high picks.
    I don't want to hear another peap about OL.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    yeah what the hell they ran it up down and through the Packers and then got stuffed on 4th and 1. I do think the backups were in though at that time
     
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    That 4th down playcall was classic Hackett. I figure they want to keep it vanilla to get the OL used to playing together.
     
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    I think the intensity of practices put the Jets ahead of the Packers in preseason game 1. It was discussed somewhere about how Alabama players under Saban said practices were harder than games. That was related to the increased intensity and duration of practices this year under AG. I hope that intensity continues to build as they approach the regular season.
     
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    I agree but we have seen it both ways though. Patricia in Detroit ran some of the most intense practices you'd see and then we walked into their building week 1 with rookie Sam Darnold and kicked the living shit out of them! Afterwards lions players would say they were burnt out from camp

    Another example? Al Groh when he was here. He ran the team into the ground with his practices which is why they went from 6-1 start to 9-7 and missing the playoffs.

    (Aaron Glenn was on that team so maybe he learned a lesson there how to manage correctly)
     
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    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    right…which just shows that there is no one “right way” to do things…sometimes hard practices are better, sometimes light one are…sometimes a disciplinarian coach is better, sometimes a players coach is better.

    It kind of shows that rather than the style of coaching, the important thing is that the HC has the pulse of the team and knows his players…he has to know when they need a kick in the ass and when they need a break. Parcells I think was a master at this…he knew when he needed to grind his players and when to give them a break. And he didn’t necessarily treat everyone the same.

    That’s the hard part to predict in a coach. You would hope that when a coach is in the HC hiring conversation, he should know his X’s and O’s Pretty damn well. It’s all the other things that make or break them.

    What is their scheme preference, and can they tailor or change it to match the talent on the team? (Andy Reid is great at this)

    Can they motivate the players to maximize their ability? (Parcells was great at this)

    Can they galvanize the players into a clear vision of the team, so that the whole is much more than the sum of the parts? (Belichick was one of the best at this)

    Just so many facets that can make or break it for a coach.

    And that’s just the on the field stuff…they also have to know how to identify and retain quality asst coaches, especially OC and DC; they have to be the face of the team, they have to be good administrators, they have to know how to evaluate player talent and work with the GM to draft and sign players that fit the team vision and system.

    Very hard to qualify and quantify many of those skill sets…
     
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    agreed, but having a high intensity practice in and of itself doesn't overcome poor coaching (ie. the fat bearded rapist Patricia). Combining intense practive with good coaching can make a big difference. I'm not saying that's definitely what's going on with the Jets, but its an interesting concept to watch.
     
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    LogeSection2RowJ Well-Known Member

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    Any improvement over last year in this area. Last season was horrendous.
     
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    They've all been pretty horrendous after Rex's second year. I blame the curse of the lap band surgery he got.
     
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    he lost his Jabba mind control powers....
     
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    Maybe we should jettison the gut runs on 4th and 1 and instead try an edge run?
     
  16. bleedgreen

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    there are plenty of options, including up the gut.. preseason game calling is basically no surprises, as you well know. they must work on different stuff in practice.
     
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    A HC who holds players ACCOUNTABLE for taking plays off or repeated penalties is very important too. Seeing AG tear into that player coming off the field is something we haven't seen in years.

    Other players who are playing their arsis off also love seeing a HC tear into a player who keeps ruining the game plan with dumb penalties.

    Can't recall who, but one of our young vets said it was the first time they've seen players being held accountable since they got here, and love seeing it.
     
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    This regime is building the correct way. Finally. OL comes first. Then you get your QB. It may take another 2 years but this team seems to finally be headed in the right direction. With all other positions it should be easier to find quality players and that will follow suit....
     
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    I have a feeling we'll be seeing the "Tush Push" executed by the Jets this season.
     
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    Yes I agree that this is the way…start with the trenches especially on OL…without an OL the offense won’t work.

    However, when you say “finally”, I’d just say that this was also JD’s plan or strategy…he just sucked at executing it. He prioritized OL and DL as well, but just failed miserably on building the OL…it’s pretty inexcusable that in 5 years of being in charge, he couldn’t get it right. Too many bad free agent signings…Becton was a bust, etc.

    But to be fair to him, this OL really is his OL for the most part…he drafted Olu, Tippman, and Vera-Tucker, and he signed Simpson. Mouge just put the final piece on it with Membou this year. So for all the hate we give JD, this is really his OL…problem is it took him 5 freaking years to get it together.

    And then of course, he couldn’t find us a QB either…hopefully it won’t take AG and Mouge 5 years to find our QB (and yeah, I’m thinking Fields ain’t it…he’s just holding the seat warm until we find the franchise guy)
     
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