The Jets Mock Offseason/Draft (11.14.11)

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  1. JohnnyThaJet

    JohnnyThaJet Active Member

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    It seems as though whenever the Jets lose it always calms me down too do one of these mocks. I decided this time too add some offseason moves since, In my opinion, we will be making a splash in free agency too improve the gapping holes on this team. I was going too add a first round mock as well but I want too wait a bit into the season too make decisions on where teams will be picking.

    First I will start with the Offseason moves:

    -Sign Free Safety Michael Griffin to a 4 year 34 mil contract, 14.5 mil guaranteed.

    First off it has become almost as clear as our lack of pass rush that safety is becoming a bigger need each and every week, we get beat on big plays and Eric Smith can no longer be starting on this team. Michael Griffin should be the answer too our whoas at Free Safety, he is young (26), does a great job in coverage, can pick off the ball, and does a solid job on TE's. He will be a free agent this off season for the Titans and with Cortland Finnegan a free agent as well I think they look too lock him up first, leaving Griffin to explore free agency. I formed the figure of his contract from the Adrian Wilson contract is a bit more than this, which should be since Wilson is a bit better than Griffin.

    -Sign Tight End John Carlson to a 2 year 2 mil contract.

    John Carlson has basically been shoved out of Seattle with the signing of Zach Miller. Pete Carroll says they still love him but with his season ending surgery they most likely will not want him back. Mulligan will most likely be cut and I don't feel too confident in a rookie stepping in and being a consistent blocker in his first season which means we must bring in a TE with some experience. Carlson would be a nice signing since he has been a very solid run blocker previously and has the ability too catch decently. For a #2 TE he would certainly be an upgrade over anyone we have this season and not too mention he can actually help us run some 2 TE sets with effectiveness.

    Resigning's-
    Plaxico Burress (1 yr 2 mil)- He will be one year older but we will need a constitent red zone threat next year, in a limited role, he would be very effective and solid for Mark.

    Jim Leonhard (4 yr 20 mil)- Jimmy is still a big leader in the secondary and despite a down year he will require a decent contract, 5 mil a year is a solid contract for both parties.

    Sione Pouha
    Nick Folk
    Aaron Maybin
    Jamaal Westerman
    Marques Cole
    Robert Turner

    Jets Mock Draft
    Now here's the fun part, the Jets draft. With the offseason Ive mocked for the Jets it seems as though a need for the Jets has gone away, safety, at least starter wise. The Jets now biggest needs are Rush Linebacker, Wide Receiver, and Offensive Line. Here we go:

    Round 1: Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama
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    Upshaw is a very solid 3-4 OLB, he has played very well at Alabama especially this season, each year it seems as though he has gotten better and better. He is a very effective pass rusher ( 6.5 sacks in 10 games this season) and very stout against the run. As many have said previously he reminds me a lot of Lamaar Woodley, a big OLB with surprising speed and sets the edges very well. He could come in as a rookie and make Rex look good.

    Round 2: Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
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    With his recent ACL injury Broyles stock will go down in the draft, which means many WRs like Jeffery, Blackmon, Floyd, Fuller, Jones, and Criner may go ahead of him. This would be perfect for the Jets, getting an extremely productive college wideout who could come in and be a great #2 and IMO quickly become a possession WR his first season. Broyles as many of you know has had a great college career, a grand total of 349 receptions 4,586 yards and 45 TDs in 4 season. He would need too come into the combine showing he hasn't lost much speed from the ACL injury and if true he should be somewhere around the 2nd round.

    Round 3: Zebrie Sanders, ROT, Florida State
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    Honestly, I was looking to give another name for a RT prospect but I really like Sanders and this position in the draft too select him. I previously put him in my past mock simply because he is one of the better pure RT prospects in the draft since most of his career if not all has been played at RT in the ACC. He has versed many solid DE's from North Carolina and other ACC schools and done a good job. He is a stout run blocker and has done well pass blocking, he has a solid frame, nice long arms, and has the skill set too be a Guard in the NFL. Sanders is a bit raw and will need to adjust to NFL speed but he would be a nice replacement for Hunter in a few seasons.

    Round 4: Rokevious Watkins, OG, South Carolina
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    I swear every time I watch SC play tthis kid would stand out too me tremendously when they ran the ball. Watkins is an excellent run blocker and has been a big part of why Marcus Lattimore has been so productive. Brandon Moore is in his 9th season and in a few more years may need too be replaced with some fresh blood. And thats wear Watkins comes in. Rokevious besides having a cool first name would be a excellent project for Mr. Callahan too shape into a solid starting Guard. With time this kid has all the skill set too become a solid Guard in this league. He would be a steal in the 4th round.

    Round 5: Jerrell Young, FS, USF
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    Even with the signing of Griffin the Jets need a young safety too replace Pool and fill in when Griffin is out. Jerrell Young has been very impressive at South Florida, I was at the Rutgers game last week against USF and it seemed like on every deep ball Young was involved in some way, either batting away the ball, diving for an interception, or making a strong tackle on running plays. Young is a good coverage safety that has a the ability too stop the run. Coming in he would be a solid special teamer and a decent #2 Free Safety.

    Round 6: Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan Yes, we resigned Plax. Yes, we drafted Broyles. Yes, We have Holmes and Kerley. But even still WR depth is something that could be very big for this Jets team next season. As Sanchez gets more comfortable passing he will need as many skilled WRs on the team as possible and in the 6th round it would be worth a shot too pick up a guy with excellent burner capabilities as well as the ability to catch a nice ball over the middle. Jordan White is an explosive wideout from Western Michgan who many haven't heard of but has had great numbers his whole career. This season thus far he has racked up an impressive 99 catches for 1283 yards and 12 TDs. He has had an excellent career as WMU as a home run threat, a skill set that could be good for the Jets if he can fair decently in the NFL.

    Round 6: Derek Wolfe, DE/DT, Cincinnati
    I think next year we cut Dixon which means we will need someone too fill in as a rotational DE/DT on the line. Where in comes Wolfe a solid 3-4 DE prospect with tons of potential as a Mike Devito 2.0. Wolfe is an excellent run stuffer as well as above average pass rusher. Racking up 42 tackles and 7.0 sacks this season for the Bearcats. His stock is low as of now since he has played against weak competition as well as will most likely only be drafted as a low end 3-4 DE but his stock could go up vastly if he impresses at the combine given his great intangibles. Either way Wolfe provides a great combo of a high motor and a extreme level of intensity game in and game out. He'd would be a great rotational DE for the Jets.

    As always thanks for reading! Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. nyjetsrule

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    Not a fan of the Wolfe pick. I don't think Dixon is going anywhere for two reasons. One he is the grounder for Kenrick Ellis, who oh by the way is a big investment for us. And two, because he is playing damn well. He has a chance to be the next Mike Devito for this team.

    Otherwise, solid balance of picks for our needs and future needs (I.E. OL). I just can't see Broyles falling that far even with the ACL. Nick Toon is a guy I like in that spot, but hey if Broyles is around there, its hard to pass him up. Two guys along the OL is a good move, i just want somebody who can replace Hunter ASAP, not 3 years down the line. At that point, I'd rather pass on a safety, we need a big time playmaker at the position, and we aren't going to find one that late in the draft (most likely).

    Not a bad mock for mid-november, but damn its a little early to be seeing these pop up.
     
  3. JohnnyThaJet

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    Thanks for the comments. I think you are underestimating Wolfe, he is a solid DE and as much as I do like Dixon I'm not sure I see him producing anymore than he already is, which is average. But who knows.

    Broyles has potential too drop in this draft a bit since teams are always scared too pick a kid who was previously injuried, even if he has great numbers. And with the plethora of WRs in this draft I'm sure some teams may rather have a healthy WR. But its hard too tell of course. I like Nick Toon but there are better WRs out there in the second. Like Dwight Jones or maybe in the Third like BJ Cunningham out of Michigan State who is really really impressing me.

    I'd like too replace Hunter quickly as well but that requires one of two things, either sign a RT in free agency or draft a RT in the first and hope he starts. Both of which are hard too do and not very smart for the Jets. I think we could hold up wih Hunter for another season and groom a solid mis rounded too fill his role. Sanders , IMO, could do so in a year or two under Callahan.

    And hey i know its early , trust me, but these are always fun and I love too look back too see if I was right or wrong and see how much stock former picks have gone up or down.
     
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    on the dixon thing, I see him as being our best 'backup' DL right now. better than ropati and ellis. is he starting material? No, but he is a damn good rotational guy. Even if he never gets any better, isnt that more than we could ask for? I just see it as a wasted pick, we have lots of depth along the DL, better to develop what we have after spending nearly half our draft along the DL this past year.

    Thats really the only reason I can Broyles falling, the strength of this class. We just differ in opinion on Toon. I think he is really going to blossom at the next level. Hell with the depth of this class, he might be a third rounder.

    As far as Hunter goes, if we can get a guy in FA you do it. Nothing is more important than protecting Mark, be it with elite receiver play, elite RB play or a cream of the crop OL, our number one priority as a team is to protect Sanchez. He isnt developing as we'd like right now, so its imperative we keep him upright, and give him every chance to succeed, and Wayne hunters needless penalties and ability to become a turnstile sometimes is messing with his head.
     
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    Interesting mock.

    Courtney Upshaw is now my #1 target for round 1, love that pick.

    I am not as enthralled by Broyles as others, and his recent injury troubles me. Sometimes that injury takes over a year to recover from and is just a devastating injury for a receiver. I think if we really wanted him there's a chance we might even
    be able to snatch him by the 3rd round come draft time.

    I like Juron Criner a lot (might be gone by our pick in round 2) as well as McNutt from Iowa in round 3 if we were to go oline or some other position in round 2.

    If we were to go oline or safety in round 2 I like kelechi osemale(sp?) and do like tj McDonald and Robert Lester more than most around here.

    Rest of the mock looks good. We need oline depth (like sanders) and desperately need a deep threat.

    I'm increasingly thinking a dlineman who is an above average pass rusher is a need for this team as atleast a backup. On obvious passing downs it would be nice for once to have a big man down there that can get some pressure on the QB off the dline.

    Don't get me wrong, I am happy with our starters on the dline for now, but do see a need for the presence of someone who can come in there when we play 4 down lineman and get some pressure. I would not be opposed in using a fairly high pick on a dlineman again if he could push the pocket.
     
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    I stopped reading at 5 mill to Leonhard... are you kidding me!?
     
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    ^ Yeah...why in the fuck would we re-sign Jimmy Leonhard? Dude's an overachieving, walking, talking mismatch on defense.
     
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    The season is barely halfway finished and you're doing a mock-offseason?

    Please don't. The GM tried that here and failed.

    Rock Watkins is a horrible pass protector. He can certainly run block, but the entire Carolina offensive line has struggled in pass-pro.

    I really like Jordan White. I feel like he'll go a lot higher than that though.

    A 5th round safety isn't going to solve our problems at the position. We need to bring in multiple experienced vets at LB and S. This team is still capable of winning now.

    ...can't argue with the Upshaw pick. Lucky for us, this draft has quite a few pass rushers. He's the best though. I doubt he'll be there when we pick.
     
  9. JohnnyThaJet

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    I don't get how that's so ridiculous? Daniel Manning signed the same contract with the Bears and Id but them at about the same level, just different play styles. Jimmy is a solid safety, he does a great job leading the secondary as well. He's having a down year like i said but I'm sure many Jets fans prior too this season would of re-signed him.
     
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    I like Criner as well. He Should definitely be somewhere we are picking in the second. But if Broyles is there you take em. I don't think he will be available in the 3rd honestly. The kids got too much potential and IMO won't lose a step from the ACL injury. He'd be a sure fire bet too start come September and that's something hard too pass up.

    There are some decent safeties in this draft but if we are going too solve our problems we will need to sign a veteran. A rookie coming into.this defense at safety could be troublesome. That's why I signed Griffin too the team. We need a player like him.

    Wolfe is certainly so a pass rushing down lineman he can push the pocket with ease and surprisingly has some solid pass rush moves. He would be nice too rotate in.

    Thanks for the comments, well appriciated.
     
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    eh why not? It's never a bad thing too talk about progressing needs and safety has now.become one of the bigger concerns on this team. And I always do an occasional mock , this time just added a little offseason in there.

    I agree with Watkins being less than average pass blocking but i think the excellent run blocking he provides could do big things in the NFL if he was taught too be a decent pass protector. He'd be a project and the kid would be worth the time as you already know.

    I thought about White going higher but sometimes these teams don't pick WRs with these explosive stats. Example: Freddie Barnes out of Bowling Green, he had great speed, just about the same size as white, and solid hands and went undrafted. Now I think White is better , especially breaking tackles but sometimes inflated stat WRs like these go low.

    I believe we need vets at LB and Safety as well, that's why i signed Griffin and Jimmy. I drafted Young simple because he has solid potential too be like a Brodney Pool. Even if we draft Upshaw I agree we need another vet OLB. But too be honest i couldn't find one capable of fitting into the budget and being effective. Maybe bring back Cactus cheap?

    Upshaw is the best pass rushing 3-4 OLB in this draft but something tells me Brandon Jenkins could go higher, since I think he will light up the combine. But if Upshaw is even close we need too go after him. He is a complete LB capable of starting on this D.
     
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    I know that he's a horrible pass protector. I'm not sure if that can be corrected with time.

    Freddie Barnes did not have great speed. I believe he ran 4.6s at his pro day. I really liked the kid, but hidden health concerns and mediocre speed hurt him tremendously.

    Jim Leonhard is mediocre. Like I said earlier, he's an overachiever that can be exploited by physical receivers.

    I don't have a problem with drafting a safety late, he just won't be much of an upgrade over an experienced player like Eric Smith or Brodney Pool.

    Michael Griffin would be a nice signing, but predicting FA signings halfway through a season is pointless.

    Bryan Thomas is done with the New York Jets. The achilles injury will more than likely put an end to his career. Maybin, Westerman, and a rookie are our future at OLB.

    We need to get better inside. David Harris is and will be solid for years. Bart Scott is done. The team speed in the front seven needs to be upgraded. Drafting Vontaze Burfict makes almost as much sense as Upshaw. Harris is the only player in our LB corps making sideline-to-sideline plays on the ball. Burfict would give us another.

    Courtney Upshaw plays in a scheme that will make him NFL ready. Brandon Jenkins isn't on the same level. At this point, the only front seven players that could go before Upshaw are Quinton Coples and Dontari Poe.

    Upshaw can play in the 4-3 and the 3-4. Jenkins is strictly a 3-4 guy and that hurts him. He barely weighs 230 pounds - true definition of a 'tweener.
     
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    Was actually gunna response too this whole thing but obviously that would do no good for a convo. Unfortunately, I just saw this.
     
  14. BakerMaker

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    I am fine with all of those moves JTJ but I defintely want to draft a punter in round 6 over a 4th/5th WR.

    The punting situation has been ignored for far too long....
     
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    I'm always shaky with rookie punters. Id rather bring in a FA vet. Matt Turk might not be a terrible option or Daniel Sepulveda from The Steelers. Good call though. Conley has been extremely unimpressive. I think we made a mistake not keeping Weatherford.
     
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    Sepulveda is injury prone so he might not be a long fix. And Turk was awful with the Jags this year in punting, he looks just about done.

    Yeah the punter we may draft could be Matt Dodge 2.0 but if the top punting prospect is laying wait in round 6, I definitely would go and grab him. Some of the best punters like a Dustin Colquitt get taken as early as round 3 or 4 and I feel with the team the Jets have that a punter is so vital.
     

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