The Jets 2012 Draft Targets & Their Player Comparisons

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  1. JohnnyThaJet

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    As the season comes closer and closer it seems as though the Jets already have a plan for next years draft and which positions to address, which obviously are OLB and WR. Looking up and down at the top Jets prospects in my mind I like too compare them too current NFL players.

    I will list my top WRs and OLBs and compare them to players in the NFL I feel they most compare to and could develop into in the league. Id like to hear your comparisons as well as possible different positions and comments on mine.

    Top WR targets: (in no order)

    1. Justin Blackmon, WR, Ok St. = Dwayne Bowe, WR, Chiefs


    Besides being very close to the same size ( JB at 6'1 215 and Bowe at 6'2 221) both posses a very similar skill set at being extremely strong, never afraid to go over the middle, make some of the tougher catches Ive seen in awhile, tough too tackle, and never lose the football, I believe Blackmon has no fumbles so far in his career at OK State while Bowe has just two in four years.

    2. Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina = Calvin Johnson, WR, Lions

    This one might be a bit too obvious, and I wanted too compare Jeffery more too his fellow former Gamecock Sidney Rice but that would be an insult too his potential. This kid IS the next Calvin Johnson, book it, he has the size that Johnson does (about 6'5 225), has soft hands comparable to Johnson, high football IQ, has great speed, and runs great routes. I coudl go on and on the kid really doesnt have many flaws too his game. He should be a top 5 prospect and would be terribly hard too even get but if he drops too anything lower then 5 depending on the teams picking, Id be all for the Jets throwing a ATL like package at that team.

    3. Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma = Steve Smith, WR, Panthers

    The size between the two are somewhat different ( 5-11 compared to 5-9) but there build is very similar at about 185 pounds. Both of these guys have extremely sure hands and are shifty as hell. Now Smith has had some recent down years but I think Broyles can have years similar too Smith at his best in the NFL ( 85-95 receptions with about 1,000 yrds+) this obviously depends on the QB play but both can make their own. Broyles production has actually been better then the two above him on this list and he has PROVEN that he is extremely NFL ready, he of all these WRs may actually be the best pick if the Jets stay put and take a WR.

    4. Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M = Plaxico Burress, WR, NY JETS


    Wouldnt it be funny if we replaced Burress with a WR like Fuller who essentially could be the exact same player? Fuller size wise is virtually the same as Burress ( Plax- 6'5 225 Fuller- 6'5 220) and there skill set is very similar too, Big body WRs who jump over opposing CBs, both have HUGE hands too make the tougher catches, and both are extremely solid in the redzone. Now the knocks on them are both the same, their speed is just OK and durability is sometimes an issue but I think his size and hands make up for it. Fuller most impressed me in the Cotton Bowl against Patrick Peterson completing 7 receptions for 83 yards. This kid can play and should be solid in his first few years.

    5. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame = Kenny Britt, WR, Titans

    Too be honest this comparison was hard too make, I first thought VJack but I dont think he could be as good as him and then i thought back too Kenny Britt and though yeah why not. Britt and Floyd have had there share with trouble outside of the football field, Britt more than Floyd. Size wise are basically the same 6-3 215-220, big time red zone targets, willing too make catches in the middle of the field, run solid routes, not burners but have good speed and can be deep throw threats.

    Top OLB targets:

    First and foremost I would like to say that I would list Quinton Coples at #1 for pass rushing target for the Jets but I honestly dont see him being a OLB in the NFL, i think hes a lock at 4-3 DE. I would like too wish he could be a 3-4 OLB but I just dont think it happens. If you disagree I completely get why.

    1. Brandon Jenkins, OLB , FSU = Brian Orakpo, OLB, Redskins


    Both of these guys have the same body style ( Jenkins has bulked up to 258 as of late same as Orakpos 260 both 6'4 ), both have such a excellent first step, while playing with solid power, and an excellent amount of pass rushing moves. They both arent exactly great against the run but IMO Jenkins can improve with time and will come into the NFL and immediately be a consistent pass rusher, exactly like the Jets need.

    2. Donte Paige-Moss, OLB, NC = Cameron Wake, OLB, Dolphins


    This may be high expectations for DPM but I think him in Wake are very similar in play style, both utilize their strength too dominate in the pass rush, both are extremely built and have great athleticism. Moss is more like Wake now then Wake was at Penn State and both can provide some serious movement off the edge and can make their own off blocks.

    3. Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama = Terrell Suggs, OLB, Ravens

    Both of these guys are just TERRORS off the edge, both have the ability to play inside as well as outside LB, and are very stout against the run. Upshaw himself is a very solid all around OLB, he may not be amazing in coverage btu hes a hard hitter and pure pass rusher, just like Suggs. He needs a beefed up line in the NFL to excel fully but I think the Jets could certainly provide that.

    4. Bruce Irvin, OLB, WVU = ???????

    This one is rough for me folks, I honestly cannot figure out who Irvin compares too the most, hes a big bodied OLB who is 6'3 ,with exceptional hands, pass rushing moves, and will have another great year at DE for WVU. He has shown decent skills in pass coverage as well, the only player I can think of him being close too is Aldon Smith but I think Smith is better then Irvin overall.

    5. Jonathan Massaquoi, OLB, Troy = Tully Banta-Cain, OLB, NE

    WW85 has pointed his kid out too me and after watching some videos on this kid and reading scouting reports, Im in, when I first saw this kid I instantly thought of Tully Banta-Cain. Both are about the same size, have GREAT first step and quickness for their size, and both can be great pass rush specialists in the NFL. Now Im not quiet ready to declare Massaquoi the next Ware or Woodley, Ill need too see him in the combine as well as get another great year under his belt. Hes got great potential though, only time will tell with this kid.

    Thank you for the read if you've made it this far down, its obviously greatly appreciated. Remember this isnt a ranking just some players I think the Jets could target in the draft whether it be trading up for them, or drafting them in the middle rounds. Feel free too name more players and compare them to current or past NFL players.
     
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    Alshon Jeffery to Calvin Johnson...are you serious?

    UNC's Quinton Coples and South Carolina's Devin Taylor are probably LOLing that you didn't include them in your pass rusher rankings.
     
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    Remember I never put them as rankings, just targets, Coples I stated was a beast but I think he will be a 4-3 DE in the league and would be alot better off in that role. I kept Devin Taylor in midn but I really want to see another year out of the kid first. ( Also another player who will ,most likely, only be drafted as a 4-3 DE)

    And this is about potential, I like Jeffery could develop into the next Calvin Johnson type WR, I dont see him being better then Blackmon or AJ Green of last year but hes right behind them and has exceptional talent.
     
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    This is a horrible comparison. Book it.

    Where are you getting this crap? Jeffery's football IQ is very high, but he's not fast. He probably runs in the high 4.5s or low 4.6s right now.

    He rounds off a lot of routes, so he definitely has a lot of work to do in that area. He's got very good work ethic, so that will improve with time and non-Spurrier coaching.

    Calvin Johnson and AJ Green are the best wideout prospects of the decade. Alshon Jeffery doesn't come close to them. He's one of my favorite players in college ball and it's not hard for me to admit that he's not on their level. '
     
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    They are completely different styles of wideouts.

    Calvin Johnson has great size plus elite speed. Jeffery just has the size. He isn't a burner.

    Like I said before, Megatron is one of the best wideout prospects of the last decade. ...possibly of all-time. It'll be amazing to see what he can do with a good QB throwing to him.
     
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    Ive read he's ran between a 4.45 and a 4.55 for a 6'4 230 WR thats pretty impressive, now its not as fast as Calvins 4.35 but its still not terrible. Like you said his work ethic is killer, I think, overtime he can easily become a better route runner, I realize he's not the sharpest route runner but obviously this can be improved.

    I dont think he will be better then Johnson or Green but I think the kid has enough potential and talent to become a comparable #1 to Johnson, I dont think its a horrible comparison.
     
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    And a fucking healthy Oline for god sakes haha.
     
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    Alshon Jeffery reminds me of USC's Mike Williams. That's actually the best comparison I can think of.

    The year off from football really hurt him as a player. He had a pretty good year in Seattle last season, but the whole Maurice Clarett clusterfuck ruined what could've been.
     
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    Thats actually a pretty interesting comparison, college wise, although I think Jeffery can have a better career than Williams, BUT I will say Williams has always had shitty QBs throwing too him. With what he did with Hasselback I wonder how effective he could of been with an actual QB if the Chargers at 12 took him that year. ( Brees/ Rivers)
     
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    It won't be hard for Alshon to have a better pro career than Mike Williams.

    QB play wasn't Mike Williams' problem. He couldn't control his weight and he had little desire to play the game. After sitting out that year, he was never the same player.

    At USC, he was a dominant player on a dominant team.
     
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    Ohhh... it could have been a good thread.


    Ryan Broyles is Reggie Wayne. Same player. Here's something I wrote about it back in January:

    I'm also very happy with my Floyd - Andre Johnson comparison. Similar build, both are deadly catch and run players, but equally dangerous jump ball guys. Really have all the tools, and if it weren't for him being a dumbass he'd be a top ten caliber guy.

    I actually like the Plax-Fuller comparison. Routes/body control to catch passes, but juuuust enough to be dangerous out in the open.

    And for future reference, Mo Sanu is Anquan Boldin, so no worries there.

    I'm going to take another minute to figure out my Blackmon/Jeffery comparisons, don't want Mr E to e-yell at me.
     
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    Hmmm... Actually I really like the Wayne and Broyles comparison better then my Steve Smith comparison. I would like fror Broyles to get a bit more weight on him and get around 195 like Wayne, but at the same time I dont want to effect his speed.

    Flyod and Johnson? I agree they have a similar skill set but are you saying Flyod has that much potential or there games are similar? ( Not fully disagreeing just curious)

    I love Mo Sanu, I just wish he had a better QB throwing too him, this year should prove a lot.
     
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    Alshon Jeffery = Mike Williams (USC)
    Michael Floyd = Mike Williams (Syracuse)
    Jeff Fuller = Braylon Edwards
    Ryan Broyles = Brandon Lloyd (I do like GH's Reggie Wayne comparison too)
    Justin Blackmon = Roddy White
     
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    Supposedly Broyles is up to 190 or 195 now. That will help his stock out a lot.
     
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    Really? I like that, I think thats exactly what Broyles needed too round out his overall draft stock. Now thats just see what he does with that extra weight.
     
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    He was a pretty good running back on a pass happy high school team, so that tells me that he's got great vision.

    His build just doesn't allow him to hold that much weight, so most teams recruited him as defensive back.

    Oklahoma made a pretty damn good decision when they kept him on offense.
     
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    I've been pushing that comparison myself, both positively and negatively.
     
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    FWIW Bruce Almighty is 6-2/6-3, not 6-7.

    And if I had to reach for a comparison, Lawrence Taylor has been thrown around during WVU broadcasts. Frighteningly quick first step and enough strength to bullrush OTs back into the QB. I would personally compare him to Cliff Avril.

    He'll have to beef up for the NFL, so his speed might take a hit, but if he's really moving as fast as he's been timed at, that's not problem...
     
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    Alshon loves the game too much to become a sloppy fatz piece of shit like Mike Williams did in Detroit.

    I was reading up on him for the hell of it and Matt Millen said that when Detroit drafted Williams he weighed 228 pounds. He weighed 275 when they cut him.
     
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    Oops that was a typo i meant too type 6'4 but even still there im wrong I didn't realize he was 6'2, anyways I like the Cliff Arvil comparison a lot , I wanted too go with a Wimbley but he's not as built as him.
     

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