The way I'm reading it, the best case scenario is that we come out with the 2nd overall pick, and the worst is that we come out with the 7th -- but it may be better than that because of strength of schedule. Am I wrong? The second overall pick is only possible if everyone wins and we lose, right? That would leave us as the only team with 3 wins. This is not likely. The question is, if we do win tomorrow (which I'm pretty sure we will unfortunately) what does that do to us in a best/worse case scenario? Let me know what you think.
The Jets need to beat the Chiefs tomorrow. A lousy team can't come in to the Meadowlands and embarrass the Jets to finish the season. Not after 3-12. I would gladly take the 7 pick instead of the 2 if that's the price of not being beaten by a bad team coached by Herm Edwards in our building.
Gentlemen, for the second half of the season I've been looking at games as win-win. If we win the game, Hey we WON!!! If we lose, we get a better draft choice. Now that being said, the last thing in the world that I want to see is for our team to go out and lie down and get beaten like some dog. That would be a MAJOR setback. That would mean that everything that our team has been striving for for the past 2 years was a total waste and that we have to do a Complete rebuild. That means top down, EVERYBODY goes. No exceptions. Hopefully, it doesn't come to that. Lets go out there, have fun, play hard, and let the chips fall where they may.
absolutely--the day that we WANT a loss for draft ramifications is the day we should mail it in--it is kind of like those players that DON'T hate to lose--they think if they gave their best, so be it--those are not the players you want
There is a bonus to having the 7th pick vs the 2nd. The difference in salary is pretty significant. At #7 there will still be plenty of talent available - I see no one player available at #2 that would make me root for a Jets loss.
I want a loss tomorrow Up until this week I wanted wins. Chance to play spoiler, and a chance to end the season on a nice run with some momentum. I don't think beating a bad Chiefs team tomorrow gets us anything.
I want a WIN tomorrow! Send herm packing! Plus I'd rather pick 5-7 than 2-4 personally. I don't want hte jets to take McFadden, so if we have a lower pick, there will be no urge to take him. We would probably screw up the 2nd or 3rd pick anyway (like we did picking D'Brick with #4 overall).
Ok, I understand the logic of cheering for your team no matter what. I do not understand wanting a worse draft pick. #2 pick is always better than the #7 pick. Always. Always. There's never a time that it isn't. Even if you don't want to pick at #2 you can trade the pick and get something for it.
I can't understand how anyone can root for their own team to lose. I'll be at the game tomorrow and the last thing I want to do is watch them lose. Infact I want to see them slaughter the Chiefs and maybe send some kind of statement to us fans for the future. I see what NYJets38 is saying, however there really isn't a top 5 talent at our position of need. I understand you always take talent over need, but last time we had a top 5 pick we fucked up and took need. Taking say Kenny Phillips, Vernon Gholston or Chris Long/Calais Campbell would probably work out much better then taking Glenn Dorsey or Darren McFadden, since anyone would suck behind this offensive line and Dorsey really doesn't fit the 3-4.
The 7 pick tends to turn into just as good a player as the 2 pick but at a non-premium position, like TE, RT, S, CB, DT, etc. The 2 pick is going to be a RB, WR, QB, LT, DE or occasionally a LB. The Jets really need a RT and they really need DT's at this point. All of the typical 2 picks are traps for the Jets, because you don't draft 3-4 defensive linemen on the 2 even if there were any available there next year, which there are not. From the 2 pick the Jets will have a very hard time trading down. From the 7 pick they'll be able to either take the guy they need or trade down with ease until he slots right. If the Jets COULD trade the 2 pick then strictly from a draft perspective they'd be better off having that pick, but they're not going to be able to trade it. McFadden is going to wind up going 5 to 7, just like Ricky Williams and Adrian Peterson and everybody knows it.
I could remeber last time we were in this situation. We played buffalo the last week of the 06 season. We won that game and we went from having the 2nd pick to the 4th pick(d'brik).
You can always trade it. There's always somebody who would want to trade up. You might not get full value according to the chart, but if you can still get the guy you want than anything you get is a bonus.
It's hard enough to root against your own team when the opponent isn't of significance. But it's impossible to root against them when they're playing Herm. I'll take the worse pick if it means not being embarrassed by Herm and his awful Chiefs team.
You obviously do not remember well enough b/c it was a Justin Miller KR against the Raiders which gave us the week 17 win. I hope we lose because I rather the #2 pick then a personal spite at Herm Edwards. Not one useful thing comes with a win tomorrow
