Week 4, September 30th, Metlife Stadium, in attempt to make a come back New York Jets quarter back #6 throws the football completed to Santonio Holmes. Holmes, cuts hitting a turf monster and spirals down for a crash landing, untouched by opponents. Holmes, immediately projects the football up for defenders feast, while holding his knee, in apparent foot injury that sidelines him for the rest of the season. Not many moons ago, the New York Jets were prized to take a former Super Bowl MVP for a 5th round draft pick, count it.. 5th. Amazing deal on paper that had two cities and a nation screaming holy fuck the Jets have a sick receiver and the Steelers are idiots to take only a 5th. Little did the New York Jets know this was now, 'tone time. Word up! After a four game suspension in 2010 Holmes added to a receiver core and arsenal of strong weapons like Jericho Cotchery, Braylon Edwards, Dustin Keller and Ladainian Tomlinson. The season was tremendous and Holmes was very much an instrumental piece catching a HUGE touchdown in the AFC Divisional game, against the Patriots in New England and a HUGE touchdown in the AFC Championship game against the Steelers. This would be the end of Holmes fairy tale. 2011, had promise and uncertainty. Holmes was resigned to a BIG contract with oodles of front loaded moneys and was named Captain. Throughout a tumultuous, seesaw season there were reports of Holmes complaining to the media concerning the offensive line, Mark Sanchez and offensive play calling. Many, including myself wondered if Holmes was now Captain, Coach and King of the New York Jets based on some of his comments? The season turned out to be one of Holmes' worst finishing the season with a career low 51catches for a career low 654yds and a fumble. In a must win game against our bitter rival Miami Dolphins, Holmes got into a fight with another member of the offense and was in-turn benched for the remainder of the game. The New York Jets missed the playoffs for the first time in 3 years. Over the course of three years, Holmes has not been much of a factor on the offensive side of the ball inciting dissension within the team. He is poor role model for younger, more talented receivers that require proper guidance to excel in the National Football League. There is no doubt that Holmes was once a great player in this league, however he only ever had one good season with the Jets. Truth be told there is a much great list of cons, at this point, than pros to affirm a starting position with the New York Jets. Here is my running list of cons: (feel free to add) 1) Tackled on first contact 2) Never gets up field 3) Never breaks a tackle 4) Drops easily caught passes 5) Fumbles, frequently 6) Doesn't block for shit 7) knocked off his route, easily 8) Complains about teammates to the media, while wearing the "C" 9) Directly responsible for why this team no longer has "C"s 10) Posted only 1, 100yd game in 3 seasons. 11) Never caught 10 passes in a game. 12) Ball drop celebration, celebrating when down 14+ pts 13) Injury to foot, hold knee and throw ball to other team Package him in the deal to Jacksonville with Tebro; or send to the first team willing to pay the cap penalties, whatever it takes for the least amount of hit on our cap. Anything offered is worth more than the gift that keeps on giving, the one and only, Mr. uno cero.
I think after the 2013 season we can cut him with a minimal cap hit. The cap-hit is too strong right now. We'll have to deal with Holmes for one more season. Plus he's injured, no one will take him right now. Even though I would trade Holmes for a bag of peanuts.
A lot of the nation was actually thinking that Holmes must be one fucked up mental case idiot for the Steelers to just toss him like they did. They were correct, it turns out.
Yeah. The Steelers always try to get rid of a player a year too early instead of a year too late. They did that in this case.
WHile he is an issue, the Jets dont have the talent on the team or the cap space to send this guy packing. If Edwards come back on the cheap, JK is a solid rock in the slot, Hill can take the top off, and Holmes can get back to running the underneath routs ect, we could have an adaquate corps. That said, who the hell is throwing the ball to them? WHile I ike the thread, this team has bigger fish to fry, even if this one stinks!
So you want to trade away the only real WR / playmaker on the team. Even if everything you say is valid, you have to find a team willing to take on his contract and personality and everything else. If there were any takers, he would have been long gone after the Miami game last year. Now coming off a season-ending injury, how high do you think his trade value is?
Its non existent. Holmes is worth more to the Jets than any possible return in a trade. He is the only receiver that showed any ability to get consistant seperation early this season. Our passing game has been a complete mess with he and Keller out. The only reason to trade Holems is a personal vendetta or to ensure a top five pick after next season.
I disagree, I think he only hurts us moving forward because of the type of character that he is. He is not good for this team and wont be in the future plans either. If you can get something worth trading for, you do it because you have to revamp this offense. It has to happen. You take what little bargaining chips you have on this roster right now (which is baretly any Revis, Holmes) and you trade them away to help create a futuristic vision that will be in place for years to come. That is the fastest way to a championship and taking a few players here and there each year will only make some of the vets we have on this team obsolete by the time it matters. Which we kind of just went through. You gotta take the value at this point, change has to happen.
His character issues are vastly overblown by this fan base. Not saying he's a saint but all evidence points to him making efforts to improve his image & leadership ability. For whatever this fan base has hated him from the get-go. The Jets certainly overpaid for his long term services..but he's also the best playmaker this offense has. It seems pretty self destructive to remove your only playmaker from an offense that already LACKS playmakers.
Holmes is not a problem, and is a very good receiver. I think this season has proven what we had throwing the football. However, Holmes had a productive first 3 games. Not so much in reception and yards, but add in penalty yards for. That being said, he is a premadona, or at least, he is perceived that way. I don't condone how he acted at the end of the 2011 season, but we now get a glimpse of where is frustration stemmed from. My prediction, Holmes will be a fan favorite in 2013.
I can't see any team taking him on, his base is $11M, and even before the injury he wasn't performing well enough to warrant that salary. I think any interested team will just wait and see if we cut him. If not he'll be a Jet through next season, then get cut before 2014.
He isn't worth trading, First of all no one is gonna be willing to pick up that contract and we need him right now , We have no weapons as it is on offense, And with a good number 1 reciver Holmes would be a stud as a number two with a good number 1 option
I could see why a lot of people would feel that way but a team that needs to infuse youth and a lot of it at the skill positions has to do it by using what bargaining chips they have left on the team to build up the roster. Just look at the teams over the years that have done this. Cowboys of the 90's Steelers Patriots All good teams do it, and they've done it with much better talent than someone like Holmes. Hershel walker Richard Seymour
Holmes was off to a tremendous start this year despite Sanchez. Before Holmes got injured reaching for a poorly thrown Sanchez pass he had 20 receptions for 272 yards in less than 4 games played. Keep in mind this is with Sanchez throwing him the ball. Sanchez missed 3 easy TDs to Holmes in the 1st two games of the season where he was wide open for TDs and Sanchez threw a poor pass. Holmes appeared to have come into this year very motivated. The injury was a shame. But as I said 2 years ago resigning Holmes was a terrible decision. Without a NFL caliber QB on the roster to throw the ball, spending money on a receiver is a waste. The best decision would have been to have saved the money, let Holmes leave, and gain a 3rd round compensatory pick. I agree Holmes attitude the season before was bad, but it might have been justified having Sanchez as the QB. With Sanchez as QB Holmes stats will suffer enormously. Even on the rare occasions Sanchez completes a pass it will usually be 2-3 yards behind or above the WR. Not only making it difficult for the receiver but putting him in jeopardy. While Holmes injury this year was a freak injury it was also caused by a poor Sanchez pass. If the ball had not been thrown low and behind Holmes forcing him to reach back for the ball the injury would never had occurred.
I don't agree with getting rid of our best playmaker on offense. Build a solid core around him that compliments his presence. That's why they drafted Hill, but injuries held everyone's progress back this year.
Just a note, there are no "Cap Penalties" in the NFL. It's a hard cap which means you can't go over your cap number as the NFL office has to approve things and rejects anything over cap. If something does slip through the cracks and a team winds up over the cap they lose a draft pick. Unless you were referring to the larger cap hit for cutting a player.
Correct. Holmes is a huge asshole, but he's quite literally the Jets only offensive playmaker. A lot of fans have speculated that the hit Sanchez took in Pittsburgh derailed his season; I'd argue that the downgrade from Holmes to Schilens/Gates had a much greater impact. When you consider that no team would even consider trading more than a 6th or 7th round pick for him, it makes cutting ties with him seem even more absurd. As you said, the Jets are one of the only teams to whom Holmes holds any value.
Only one player needs to really be off this team. Cut him eat the 8.25, trade him , package him with someone, but for the love of Lombardi send Sanchez away. Anyone who believes in him should be fired or traded as well.
