There's been a lot of discussion about the Jets getting away from the ground and pound philosophy that Rex began espousing when he arrived in '09 and from casual observation it has seemed that the running game has been neglected more and more in favor of a pass-heavy offense. I was curious to see whether the statistics would bear this out so I did a little compiling of numbers over the past three seasons to see how it actually looks on paper. I added up the total number of passing plays vs. running plays for each season using the box scores for each game and split running plays that were attributed to the QB down the middle between passing/running assuming that some of the time those were actually called QB runs and some of the time those were actually called pass plays where the QB had to scramble (in any case it doesn't have a significant effect on the overall numbers). Here's how it looks: 2009 (including playoffs) Run:696 (60%) Pass:473 (40%) 2010 (including playoffs) Run:606 (51%) Pass:624 (49%) 2011 (through 11 games) Run:280 (42%) Pass:384 (58%) I had a feeling that the overall trend would show a steady movement towards less running and more passing but I was pretty surprised at how huge of a swing there's been, particularly when you take into account that our main RB is barely even used in the passing game. Personally, I'd like to see Rex put his foot down and get this team back to playing smashmouth football.
This is NOT by design, it is b/c our OL and running game have struggled most of the year. We have run it more since the first NE game w/ the exception of the last NE game(trailing for most of it) and the Denver game(Greene and LT were out). If we are heal;thy and the OL is playing well it will be much closer to 50/50 than it has been for most of the year.
did you read the post above you? I think the Packers have more weapons than we do... You can be a pass first team without abandoning the run like we have. but I think its our OL this year kiling us. We havent gotten the push to consistently run the ball.
The numbers don't lie. The Jets are relying on Sanchez this season the same way that the Giants relied on Eli in his third season in the NFL and the Packers relied on Favre in his third season in the NFL and The Broncos relied on Elway in his third season in the NFL and the Dolphins relied on Marino in his third season in the NFL and so on and so forth. The third season is a real bitch for a franchise QB because he's the main focus of the attack and often the pieces around him are wearing down just as he's supposed to be hitting his stride. Sanchez is doing really well given that reality. He hasn't thrown a ton of picks, he has lead some important drives and he's watched his defense give away a couple of games at the end. If the defense doesn't fold against the Pats in the first game and against the Broncos a couple of weeks ago we're having a totally different conversation about Sanchez at this point and nothing that he actually did would have changed at all.
what is your point? that we threw 3 staright times to start the game? after you get sacked and it's 2nd and 15 you will throw more oftne than not and the same on 3rd and 15. Greene/LT ran it 15 times for 42 yds for a 2.8 YPC, we couldn't run. We had to abandon the run.
no, even though we should have come out running after letting up a score. but regardless of that, the entire game the run game was actually hitting decent chunks of yardage, only to be abandoned before letting the back get into any sort of rhythm. nothing about the sequence of playcalls would suggest that a run-first approach was the game plan. thats the point.
we must have been watching different games, what decent chunks were we hitting? Greene had 10 carries(5, 4, 1, 3, -2, 4, 4, -1, 6, 2) LT had 5 carries(4, 2, 3, 7, 0) where were these big chunks?
Well if you want big chunks of yardage on the ground you have to go back to 2009, Alan Faneca's last season with the Jets, to find those. Ground and Pound is purely defensive for the Jets this season: to avoid putting Sanchez in repeated hopeless positions when the opponent has either edge open for marauding as has been the case in several games this season.
1.Sanchez needs to step up more and prove he can make plays more often. 2.The disappearance of the ground and pound has more to do with the disappearance of our OL consistently opening lanes
The Jets were set up to take control of the division and in the span of 11 days Sancez completes 55.6% of his passes throws one TD and 3 INT's and the Jets are not just out of the division race they are hanging on by a thread for a playoff spot in a very mediocre AFC. Sanchez takes more abuse than he should for a 3rd year QB but the fact is he deserved to get booed by the fan base after he sucked the life out of it the prior 2 weeks.
Now that Jax has been sold & when they R moved to LA we can trade MS to them for a whole passel of # 1 draft choices. That will give the new Jax owner a instant fan base :smile:
The way the defense played against the Patriots we weren't winning that game if Sanchez was the second coming of Peyton. The Denver game we had them on their 5 yard line with the game on the line and couldn't stop them. The difference between the 2011 Jets and the 2007 Giants is not Sanchez vs Eli Manning it's that our defense blows chunks when it needs to come up strong and looks great against sad-sack pathetic offenses.
I understand abandoning the run when we are getting stuffed at the line and the D is dictating that we throw, but why abandon it against Buffalo? We were chunking yards like 2009!
