rex will have his soldiers ready to battle one sunday, and dismantle powerhouse teams.... but the following sunday his team will put up a goose egg? ive said it on this forum before - i dont understand how you can motivate the same men one sunday to beat peyton manning led team - then get crushed by the browns the next week. is it his game planning? i just dont know - i think he is almost there - but.... i still cant figure out how he is so consistently inconsistent ?
Wait so its the coach who is inconsistent and not the players? Wow and here i was thinking it was players that needed to play consistently...... Simply put sometimes a game plan can beat a better team and other times it cant.
OP has a great point IMO. Wildly inconsistent week to week. There is the counter that these guys are professionals yada yada yada....the coach is a motivator for sure and I would like to know what the weeks are like leading up to the duds vs the upsets.
The same could be said for the fact that this team consistently sucks after the bye week. 2013 - Loss at BUF (5-9) 14-37 2012 - Loss at SEA (11-5) 7-28 2011 - Win at BUF (6-10) 27-11 2010 - Loss vs. GB (10-6) 0-9 2009 - Loss vs. Jax (7-9) 22-24
My biggest issue over the years with the Rex era is that for a team that believes in the blitz and coming with the blitz from all angles, our offense has been one of the worst AGAINST the blitz. When do we ever burn a blitz? How many times do we see our QB crushed by one early in a game, and it effects the play of the QB the rest of the game? Too many (Buffalo this year comes to mind, and how about that game in Baltimore a couple years back when Sanchez got crushed?) The overall effect seems to point in the other team's favor. We are victims more often than benefactors in my opinion. Why aren't we better prepared to pick-up blitzes - aren't we practicing against it ll the time, or is it just about not having the right QB?
Unless you are one of the best or worst teams in the league you will find the same inconsistency everywhere. The Fish started 3-0, lost a bunch of games and now have righted the ship. Tampa and the Giants were winless for the first 6 games (8 for the Bucs) and then had winning streaks. There is an article today about the Browns up and down season. The Bengals with a loss this week enter panic mode. And after being damn near perfect against the Jets, Dalton has fallen way off in his performance. Then there are the Cowboys and Eagles.The Jets and Rex are not unique in their inconsistency.
and yet is 4-1 in season openers w/ extra time to prepare and 4-1 w/ extra time to prepare after a Thursday game.
honestly thats probably on the players believing in rex too much. they need to put the work in themselves every week and you cant blame the coach for that. i think its more that he inspires a lot of confidence in these guys and for some of them confidence is their achilles heel when it comes to trying harder. if you come in thinking you are the best team in the league, then playing a shit team isnt going to motivate you that much. especially when you have faith in the coaching staff to scheme together a win. there are guys who play hard every week no matter what, and guys who relish the opportunity to take it easy for a change. when they think they can let up a bit, they get puched in the mouth. i doubt this is rex's fault completely. and if it is his fault at all its because he gets them overconfident.
But that's a big part of the job of the HC...assessing the mental state, attitudes, preparedness of his players. If they're overconfident, it's his job to snap them out of that. If they're not working hard enough in practice or studying game film, it's his job to make sure that they do. So it is definitely Rex's fault. His approach is the epitome of a "players' coach". He doesn't discipline his players and hold them accountable. It's just a bunch of rah-rah BS big talk. That's his idea of preparing and motivating a team. It's also why I don't think he's a competent HC or the Jets will ever win anything with him at the helm.
Rex motivates via emotion. The players feed off of it...it's natural to come down off of a big high- hence the amount of letdown games this team has had. Fact is, if the majority of the locker room arent self motivators....this will happen. Not everyone is built like Peyton Manning or Darrelle Revis- guys who don't depend on the coach to get them fired up to play on Sunday. I think a lot of guys took for granted the amount of prep they needed to do throughout the week to get ready for Sunday....they relied too much on Rex to pick them up. The Pittsburgh game being the best example...even Rex seemed flat during the week.
Emotion is great, but it is very difficult, if not impossible for a professional team of grown men to get "up" emotionally for 16 games a season. Emotion can help get a team over the top occasionally, but it doesn't work as a week-to-week basis for winning. On the part of the players, hard work, physical and mental preparation, solid technique/fundamentals, out-hitting/playing, not beating yourself with stupid penalties and TOs, and character (refusing to give up/quit, and fighting hard to the whistle on every play, giving 100%)...those are the things that helps a team maximize it's talents week in and week out. On the part of the CS, designing your systems/alignments to fit the talents of your players so that you put them in a position to succeed, being disciplined and making sure your players are disciplined, making sure your players are tough both physically and mentally and in top shape, making sure your players play smart and don't draw stupid penalties like illegal procedure, offsides and personal fouls, developing your players abilities, out-thinking/coaching the other teams, hiding your weaknesses and maximizing your strengths, taking advantage of opponents' weaknesses, having backup plans ready if your game plan doesn't work, being able to adjust quickly rather than glacially...those are the things that helps a team maximize its potential week in and week out during a long and tough season. IMO Rex doesn't bring many of those things to the table. He is undisciplined and so are his players. He's all about emotion and talk, but not about the mental aspects, and the hard work. He often seems unprepared as do his teams. Often they're flat and one or more units don't show up, precisely for the reason you mentioned, they're exhausted emotionally, or not able to "get up" for a game, whereas if they weren't constantly depending upon emotion, that wouldn't be a factor. Too many players today only care about the money and fame, not enough about winning and the game itself. It's the job of the HC to weed out those types or find a way to get through to them and make them perform all out to the best of their abilities. Rex doesn't do that. He's very slow to adjust when things aren't working. He doesn't have something in his back pocket to quickly switch to. IMO he is too confident in his alignment, players and himself to the point of delusion. How else do you account for his ridiculous loyalty to players who are grossly underperforming? How is it that we can see it and he can't? It has to be because he doesn't want to see it. If he does, then that means he can't be their friend. How is it that players like Ben Hartsock (when he was with the Jets) and now Willie Colon continually draw the same dumb penalties week in and week out and there are no consequences? Fear can be a powerful motivator, too. Fear of being fined or made to run laps, fear of being benched or of being cut. Rex is just too damned soft and doesn't make his players perform. Give me a coach every day that refuses to accept less than the best from his players, who uses every motivational and leadership tool available to get the job done, not just one who counts on the players playing well because they like him. The HC needs to be THE leader of the team and set the tone. Rex isn't a leader. He wants players to be the leaders. To be sure, every team needs some players who are leaders, but still the HC has to set the tone and be the main leader, and Rex isn't except in emotion and delusion. Why is it in life that when someone is a "people pleaser" and a soft touch, that many laugh at him/her and take advantage of him/her and don't really respect him/her, yet when he's a football coach, 75% of people love him and think he's a great coach? I just don't get it.
thats not what i said at all the jets arent getting beaten by these teams because they dont study enough film and definitely not because they dont work hard enough in practice. the players on the field are losing one on one battles against guys who are fighting harder than them. no one is going to argue that this is not a young and undisciplined team in several spots, but the players need to be more consistent. in 2009 and 2010 when the team had veterans performing, the defense was always consistent. what is rex supposed to do? hes not a therapist, hes a football coach who is gaemplanning and making sure he players know the playbook and put in the physical work. in a game in which tenths of a second can make or break a guys career, the players need to learn that they must put forth the same effort against everybody no matter if they feel they are better than them or not. guys can get complacent, and they can not take their matchups seriously. the players dont get a pass just cause you dont like the head coach for some reason.
oh i get it, you just hate rex. you can disregard my last post if you want theres no point arguing with someone who thinks they know how the team runs day to day...
It comes from Rex not making it abundantly clear that every SINGLE game is important. He's talked up "big" games his whole coaching career - but that's for the fans to do, not the coaching staff. It's natural that a group of people would have a lull after an event that they put everything into and succeeded. But it's up to their leader - in this case Rex - to make sure that lull doesn't happen or doesn't carry over for very long. Rex fails at that. Rex is a great motivator when his team's back is against the wall. The whole "us vs. the world" mantra. But the problem is - that's not where you WANT to be. To have your back against the wall means you put yourself there. You want to be the front runner who takes care of business always.
I'm not sure if all the blame should be on Rex, but I do admit the Jets always seem to step up their game when we're underdogs and step down when there are high expectations.
This is exactly right. This is also why I think Rex is a great coach for the playoffs, because every game is a big game (and, for the Jets, every game is a one with low expectations). We just have to make the playoffs...
I wasn't saying that was what you said. What you said reminded me of some other things I don't like about Rex. A HC HAS to be a psychologist/therapist. He has to try to understand what makes his players tick as individuals, and find the way that will work best to motivate them and get the best out of them. The days of HCs treating them all the same and using the same old yelling schtick to get them to perform are gone. You're missing the point. It's the HC's job to make sure that the players take their matchups seriously and perform, and if they don't to either make sure they do or replace them. You're putting it all on the players and that's just wrong. It's not how it works. Bosses, Managers and HCs are expected to get results and are responsible for said results, either good or bad. Yes, the players get some blame, but that's how many players are today. You can't just sit back and say, "Oh, it's the players' fault." You have to find a way to get around that and MAKE them perform. It's their job. They're getting paid a lot of money to perform their job at a high level. There are lots of other players who would want their job. The bottom line is that it's the HC's responsibility for how his players perform and how the team as a whole performs. The buck stops with him, NOT the players. It's the same thing in the business world. An underperforming employee or two will get fired (yet who has Rex fired?), but if a whole department (or a good-sized part of it) underperforms or is very inconsistent in their performance, then the manager will get fired/replaced.
LOL! How do you get that I hate Rex from that post? I don't hate Rex, I hate the job he's done as HC. I don't think he's competent or has the intelligence to be a HC. Apples don't fall far from the tree. His dad was a great DC, but an awful HC. His brother isn't even that good a DC. Rex is better than his old man as a HC and better than his brother as a DC, but he still isn't a quality HC imo. In terms of how teams or organizations are run, it's clear that YOU don't get it. I've been a student of the game for almost 50 years. I've worked for a number of Fortune 500 companies and have been and am a boss and leader myself for over 10 years. I know what the expectations are of bosses/leaders/HCs.
Vince Lombardi said it best " Once you get there love they will follow you anywhere" well everyone loves Rex but its like going to war with 25% of the Army being trained and ready and the other 75% dont know how to shoot a gun.No matter how good of a motivator you are if you dont have the talent then theres only so much you can do
